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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:51 PM
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Stolen VA Data May Have Been Erased
Stolen VA Data May Have Been Erased


Thursday June 8, 2006 10:31 PM

AP Photo DCPM101

By HOPE YEN

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Stolen personal data for 26.5 million veterans and military personnel
may have been erased by teenagers who sold the computer equipment, Veterans Affairs
Secretary Jim Nicholson said Thursday.

In testimony to Congress, Nicholson accepted responsibility for the May 3 burglary
at a VA data analyst's home. He said the agency remains vulnerable to other security
lapses and that changes won't happen overnight.

"This has been a painful lesson for us at VA, and I am committed to assuring that we have
the people, adequately trained, policies and procedures in place to assure that this could
not happen again," Nicholson told the House Government Reform Committee.

He explained that the burglary occurred in an Aspen Hill, Md., neighborhood in which there
had been a pattern of thefts by young burglars who took computer equipment, wiped them
clean of the data and then sold them on college campus or high schools.
<snip>

Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5873716,00.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:54 PM
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1. Teenagers ate my data?
That's pathetic.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:56 PM
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2. Yeah. Yeah, there's the ticket. . .
wiped clean, no worries. Works for them . . . why not for the rest of you, who now didn't lose your identities ('cause it was wiped clean -- a new slate, as it were).

Gotta cut the VA the slack now. Just a stupid teenage prank, that's all. Oh look, here's some shiny string . . .
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:59 PM
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3. Well if there really is a pattern of similar thefts, it's possible.
Now, regardless of if it's possible, do we wanna bet the farm on it? I sure wouldn't.
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Catbird Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:04 PM
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4. Once is not enough
Unless the teenagers were professionals in computer security, they may not have erased the files thoroughly enough to prevent recovery of the information.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:14 PM
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11. Would they had bother going to that much effort just to delete...
the files normally? Or even to do a quick format?
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:53 PM
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5. well, thank goodness that's been cleared up..
please continue with your normal daily business.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:59 PM
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6. BULLFUCKINGSHIT!
i've put fraud alerts on EVERYTHING financial in my life. don't think for ONE FUCKING MINUTE i'm going to believe "my" government NOW and drop my guard

fuck that shit.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:31 PM
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7. Maybe the data faries have it and keeping it safe in the magical data
garden.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:54 PM
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8. This is fairly standard
if the teenagers didn't know that the notebook was a VA employee's, the standard operating procedure when selling to a pawn shop or the like is to wipe the HD and install a new operating system.

Yes, its possible that the NSA or other TLA (or big monied organization) could retrieve the data from a formated (and overwritten) hard drive, but its not particularly likely unless they know which specific laptop to target.
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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:56 PM
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9. But why
was this data 'in the wild' in the first place? Do these people work from home? If so what safe guards are in place?(encryption) Has anyone seen anything about why this was in the home in the fist place and what is going to be done with the employee?
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:03 PM
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10. They could have burned a disk before they erased it
But because the data may have been erased, that makes it all better.
:sarcasm:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 08:20 PM
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12. What are their names, these young thieves, where is the arrest warrant?
What a LOAD OF STEAMING HORSE SHIT! Now I'm really thinking this was an inside job.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:34 AM
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14. Right, they know this how?
Have they caught the thieves or thief? are they in Guantanamo now getting the info tortured out of them?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 07:51 AM
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13. VET FEARS CHECK WAS TAKEN WITH VA DATA
http://www.cleveland.com/search/index.ssf?/base/isvet/1149852765266930.xml?isvet&coll=2

Friday, June 09, 2006
Staff and wire reports

Washington- An Ashtabula veteran who says his June disability check was diverted to a fraudulent bank account fears his problem resulted from the theft of a laptop computer that contained records on 26.5 million U.S. veterans, Rep. Steve LaTourette told Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson at a hearing on Capitol Hill.

Nicholson said he didn't know whether 33-year-old Steven Michel's personal data was compromised by the May 3 theft from a VA employee's home and promised to help resolve the case. He called it the "first incidence" of identity theft he's heard of since the security breach.

"If it's not related, it's good news for the VA," LaTourette told Nicholson at the Thursday hearing. "If it is, you've got a big problem."

On June 1, Michel noticed that his $873 disability check hadn't been deposited to his bank account, as it has been for years. The VA told Michel, a Gulf War era veteran with congestive heart failure, that it had deposited his check into a "new" bank account. Michel immediately visited the VA's Cleveland office to correct his records and contacted LaTourette...

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:15 AM
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15. CHECK MIXUP NOT RELATED TO LAPTOP ,VA SAYS
("Without seeing the proof myself, I don't care what they tell me over the phone," said Michel, a Gulf War-era veteran who has a heart condition. "My trust with the VA has been shattered.")

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1149928924191950.xml&coll=2

Saturday, June 10, 2006
Sabrina Eaton
Plain Dealer Bureau

Washington - The theft of a laptop computer that contained records on 26.5 million veterans had nothing to do with the diversion of an Ashtabula veteran's June disability check into an incorrect bank account, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs announced Friday.

The unauthorized change to 33-year-old Steven Michel's account was put into the department's computer system on April 27, almost a week before the computer theft from a VA employee's Maryland residence on May 3, said department spokesman Matt Burns...

"Without seeing the proof myself, I don't care what they tell me over the phone," said Michel, a Gulf War-era veteran who has a heart condition. "My trust with the VA has been shattered."

VA spokesman Burns said Michel's earlier check wasn't affected because department computers didn't process the April 27 change until May 3. Burns said the VA is still investigating the cause of Michel's problem but "can say with certainty that it was not related to the recent data
theft."...


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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:48 PM
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16. It WAS??? good, I guess I dont have to worry then.
I just got a letter from the VA telling me about the theft....today.
I saw something on the news about a company that is giving 3 months free credit monitoring for vets:

http://www.lifelock.com/images/VeteransLaunch.htm

Makes ya wonder if the unidentified "teens" mighta worked for this outfit...

Course, my tinfoil hat might be a *bit* tight today.
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