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Mister K Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:30 AM
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Dog Feces Left at Congresswoman's Office (Musgrave)
Republican U.S. Rep. Marilyn Musgrave's re-election campaign was already heated, and it just got smelly as well: Her staff accused a Democratic activist Thursday of leaving an envelope full of dog feces at Musgrave's Greeley office.

Musgrave spokesman Shaun Kenney said someone stuffed the envelope through the mail slot in the door on May 31 and then sped away in a car. Kenney said most of the preprinted return address was blacked out, but staffers used the nine-digit ZIP code to trace it to Kathleen Ensz, a Weld County Democratic volunteer.

Ensz told The Associated Press she left the envelope at Musgrave's office but said it "wasn't in the office doors, it was in the foyer." Asked what she meant by the act, she declined comment.

Kenney demanded an apology from Musgrave's likely Democratic opponent, state Rep. Angela Paccione of Fort Collins.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/08/D8I4E19G0.html
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:32 AM
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1. Heh heh heh. Did they stick it with a bushitler flag?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:35 AM
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2. You mean one of these?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:44 AM
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3. Yep dat would be the one!
Whewwhheee Unhappy Camper! How are you this fine a.m.?
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fun n serious Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:45 AM
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4. This is unacceptable. NT
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:47 AM
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5. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH (nt)
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fun n serious Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:42 AM
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18. She makes us democrats look like..
insane idiots. I don't condone this. This is sick. I don't welcome her in my circle.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:49 AM
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23. *giggles*
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:45 AM
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:17 AM
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35. s/d
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 11:17 AM by brentspeak
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:03 PM
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39. What's That, brentspeak?
s/d?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:03 PM
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56. stands for self-delete...
:hi:
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 12:38 AM
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63. It's still funny
I think it cheapens the dialogue, but it's still funny considering how seriously they take themselves.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:14 AM
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27. I agree! Human feces would be more appropriate...or pig entrails...
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:46 AM
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33. BULLSHIT. n/t
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:48 AM
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6. Kathleen Ensz is an idiot.
Democrat or Republican, this was a dumb stunt.
With friends like her, we don't need enemies.

Leaving an address label attached was an act
of inspired stupidity.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:53 AM
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8. I'd sooner blame some childish supporter than the candidate
To how many people might her envelopes have been available?
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BFBILLER Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:43 AM
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20. I have an important question?
How could they tell the difference between dog crap and the regular bull crap associated with congress?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 06:08 PM
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58. Really! If you're gonna do
the fucking thing don't leave a calling card. :silly: :duh:
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:48 AM
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7. You'd think she would have thought to use an envelope WITHOUT
HER 9-digit zip code pre-printed on it?


:eyes:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:29 AM
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17. That was my first and only thought on this subject.
And we wonder why we lose elections.

Can you say "dumb"?

Somebody needs to get a repuke to teach her the proper ways to cheat and act!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:37 PM
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49. Some people are so fucking stupid...
...either that, or they just want to get caught.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:53 AM
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9. hate to ask but...
wouldn't the nine digit zip only verify the city (and perhaps what part of the city) in which she lives? I guess that's enough. Must not be too many dem volunteers in her postal delivery area.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:42 AM
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19. Actually, the final four digits of a 9-digit ZIP can specify a PO box,
drawer, or address. It narrows things down a lot.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:27 AM
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36. ops good point, I forgot about that! n/t
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:54 AM
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10. I Condone Such an Act
much appreciated... I hope to see more of this.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:09 PM
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51. It is just disgusting
I say with a:evilgrin:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 07:04 PM
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60. This sort of stunt quite appropriately disgusts the general public.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:58 AM
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11. Let's hope the dog has been de-wormed
nt
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Mister K Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:58 AM
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12. Well....
At least they did not set it on fire before placing it in the mail slot :)

Cooked crap always has a nice aroma.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:00 AM
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13. she left a return address on the envelope?
with volunteers like this, no wonder we lose.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:32 AM
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30. my first thought as well! what a freakin idiot. n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:02 AM
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14. "When simply voting for her opponent is not enough..."
If true as reported, we could probably do without this sort of thing.

I think most 6th graders would look down their nose at this.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:08 AM
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15. Karl Rove is planting dog shit in offices these days...
he never runs out of ideas does he? :eyes:
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:12 AM
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16. She should have used this service. They are professionals
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RCinBrooklyn Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:44 AM
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21. Preprinted return address? Is she THAT stupid?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:52 AM
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24. she left dog crap for someone...how smart do you think she is?
Sadly, even some Democrats are morans...
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:46 AM
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22. bwahahaha, how appropriate... for the Bitch from Ft. Morgan
Angie will defeat her!
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LouisianaLiberal Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:54 AM
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25. If this woman isn't a Rove/Atwater/Ailes/ Segretti, etc, etc type plant
then she is a fool, and does not belong in Democratic politics. This is a childish, pointless act that should not be tolerated. Yes, elections are stolen and Repubs use inane rhetoric to win, but that is no excuse for sinking to this level.
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TiredTexan Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:57 AM
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26. Sounds like Karl Rove's stunt
in planting a bug in his own office. The very fact that the "volunteer" left a paper trail says to me that she "volunteered" all right. Volunteered to help make the democratic candidate look bad.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:02 AM
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34. Same thought occurred to me
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:37 PM
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57. Bingo.
That was my first thought. Someone wanted Dems to look like morans. Either she's a plant, or the envelope is.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 12:37 AM
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62. Yes, this is bullshit, so to speak.
This has Republican scandal written all over it. In the first place, the prank itself seems too childish. Dem's are usually more creative than that.
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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:23 AM
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28. WTF??
most of the preprinted return address was blacked out, but staffers used the nine-digit ZIP code to trace it

What kind of IDIOT would black out her return address instead of using a PLAIN envelope in the first place??
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:29 AM
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29. DUMB IDEA? I don't know about that!
It disgusting, but harmless! Not using a plain envelope was very very dumb! But the idea isn't!

I have 3 dogs. Hmmmmm........
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 10:35 AM
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31. With no more impulse control than that, she might as well be a Republican.
Ordinarily, this is the kind of behavior you expect from them. You may remember reading Madeline Murray O'Hare got packages through the mail filled with whatever, from hostile, "Christian" right-wingdings. Then she got murdered.

They don't accept challenge well.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:38 PM
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50. Remember, our party is a "Big Umbrella" and includes all types...
...even idiots like this one, unfortunately.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:59 AM
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37. This is Rove bullshit and anyone who believes this is fucking stupid.
eom
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:02 PM
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38. Wow...i gess ther iz a lott of us stoopids...
By the way, I got a flat tire on the way to work today. Did Rove do that too?

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:09 PM
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42. Yeah, there are...
Do you honestly believe that who ever would do something like that would leave evidence implicating them self? Puh-leeze!

It's a stunt!

:nuke:

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:16 PM
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43. then why isn't she denying it
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 12:17 PM by onenote
Kathleen Ensz is a 63 year old professor emiritus at U of Northern Colorado and a local Democratic party official (vice chair of the Colorado Senate District 13 Democratic Central Committee). She's been involved in local Democratic politics for some time...not a likely Rove "plant."

Why can't you accept the fact that sometimes even Democrats can lose their composure and do really foolish, childish things. That's what happened here and if you honestly believe it was part of some conspiracy directed by Karl Rove...well...that's just sad.

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:18 PM
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44. Fine. We'll wait as the story developes...
if there's a story to begin with.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:23 PM
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45. there isn't any more story to develop
Democratic activist loses cool. In a remarkably immature and childish stunt,leaves envelope with dog crap at repub candidate's office. Stupidly (although given the state of mind she must've been in to pull such a silly stunt in the first place, not surprisingly), she leaves evidence that leads the police to her. When confronted she admits leaving the envelope.

That's it. There isn't and won't be any more story. Musgrave will, as one would expect, attempt to exploit this by tying it to the Democratic candidate. The Democratic candidate will (and, indeed, already has) denied any connection with this dumb fourth grade level act. Unless something were to emerge showing that the candidate knew/approved of this stunt in advance -- and I highly doubt that there is any such evidence since if anyone with half a brain had known about this they would've tried to stop Ensz -- that will be it.

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:26 PM
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53. a Professor of French
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:07 PM
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40. I don't get this: why ask for an apology from someone who didn't do it?
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:08 PM
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41. Just an envelope?
Not a flaming bag of dog poo? How lame. :boring:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:23 PM
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46. A Fleet enema would've been more appropriate since Musgrave is
full of it.
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:26 PM
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47. Eww... How would it fit?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:32 PM
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48. Oh, god. Here's the Republican Rep. Musgrave with Bush


From a different article:
~snip~
On Thursday, knowing that police were writing a citation, Musgrave’s campaign office sent out a press release linking Ensz to state Rep. Angie Paccione’s campaign for Musgrave’s 4th Congressional District seat.

In fact, “Paccione” is the first word in the communication.

Shaun Kenney, Musgrave’s campaign spokesman, called the doo-doo delivery “sleazy” and said that Paccione, a Fort Collins Democrat, should return any campaign money she received from Ensz.

“We are a bit concerned,” he said. “This is June. If we are getting into this gutter-politicking now, what are we going to get into when we get close to November?”

But Paccione’s campaign staff distanced themselves from Ensz and said the public effort by Musgrave’s campaign staff to connect Ensz to Paccione’s campaign is what really stinks.

“If it’s true, this is a deplorable act,” Paccione spokesman James Thompson said in a statement about the poop incident. “This woman (Ensz) isn’t associated with the campaign, and we don’t condone this type of extremism, no matter what party or organization they’re affiliated with.”

Musgrave’s camp is sensitive to negative campaigns after she was the target of the now infamous “pink lady” television ads in 2004, which depicted her stealing money out of the pockets of soldiers in Iraq.

Some believe the negative campaign ads, paid for by a private group, backfired and threw more support Musgrave’s way.

Thompson also said the timing of Musgrave’s press release is questionable, since she’s expected to introduce a bill this week to ban gay marriage through a constitutional amendment.
(snip/...)
http://www.longmontfyi.com/Local-Story.asp?id=8129



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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:13 PM
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52. Eeeeeewwww.
If it really was a Dem that did it, it just goes to show some of us also behave in a less than stellar fashion. That's just plain moranic.
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xthetylerx Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:36 PM
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54. What kind of idiot...
puts the dog crap in an enevelope with ANYTHING ON IT, especially her zip code?!

If she is going to do that, at least take the time to put it in a plain, non-written envelope.

:P
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:44 PM
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55. Someone sent Musgrave a sample of the contents of W's head?
:evilgrin:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 06:47 PM
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59. Then the envelope
would be empty. :D
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 07:07 PM
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61. Rovian agent or just a dumbass?
Either way, she's making us look bad.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:50 AM
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64. Check out the General's memo to Rep. Musgrave:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 11:09 AM
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65. This is awesome
Every Rethug should get one.
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