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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:31 PM
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Yard told MI5 of terror tip doubt (update)
Scotland Yard warned MI5 it had serious reservations about the credibility of the source whose information triggered the Forest Gate anti-terrorism raid only hours before police stormed the suspects' house in east London.

Whitehall sources told The Observer last night the reservations were passed up the chain of command to senior officials in the office of Sir Richard Mottram, the government's security and intelligence co-ordinator, but despite the concerns the police were ordered to go in.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1794962,00.html
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:34 PM
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1. Because its far more important to be seen...
...to be doing something than it is to be seen doing nothing. Even if the something is totally stupid.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:17 PM
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2. Sounds like that sells to the non-Moslem electorate in that country.
Or someone believes it to at any rate.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:24 PM
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3. Your second answer is closer to the truth.
The British people are, in general, less fooled by their government's mishandling of the 'War on Terror' than we are. After the lies of the Downing Street Memo, the whole WMD debacle, the suicide of Dr. David Kelly, the mishandling of the 7/7 bombings and the shooting of Brazilian electrician de Menezes, very few Britons have any illusions about the competence of the government.

This raid is just the latest in a series of ploys by Labour to appear in control. Once again, they've failed. Come the next General Election, the British people are ready to hand them their walking papers. The only problem is that the alternative Conservative Party is just as big a bunch of cretins, so nothing will really change.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:00 AM
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4. There's a lot of buck passing going on
Ealier this week, it was MI5 who were claiming they weren't sure about the reliability of the information, but the police had decided to go ahead with the raid anyway.
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:29 AM
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5. Actually, I think this is a very subtle way to blame the politicians...
Both MI5 and the Yard say they had reservations but:

"'There came a point when officials in the Cabinet Office were made aware that the police believed they were being placed in difficulty because of the quality of this intelligence.'"

In other words it was the Blair government, not the police or MI5 that ordered this raid to occur. This PROVES that the raid was nothing but a political stunt, that resulted in an innocent man being shot.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:22 PM
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6. It makes me wonder how the Canadian raid will stack up
Once the evidence is produced.
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