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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:48 AM
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Fear of Big Battle Panics Iraqi City (Ramadi)
It sounds like the massacre in Fallujah part II. :(

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-ramadi11jun11,0,6003091.story?track=mostviewed-storylevel

BAGHDAD — Fears of an imminent offensive by the U.S. troops massed around the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi intensified Saturday, with residents pouring out of the city to escape what they describe as a mounting humanitarian crisis.

The image pieced together from interviews with tribal leaders and fleeing families in recent weeks is one of a desperate population of 400,000 people trapped in the crossfire between insurgents and U.S. forces. Food and medical supplies are running low, prices for gas have soared because of shortages and municipal services have ground to a stop.

U.S. and Iraqi forces had cordoned off the city by Saturday, residents and Iraqi officials said. Airstrikes on several residential areas picked up, and troops took to the streets with loudspeakers to warn civilians of a fierce impending attack, Ramadi police Capt. Tahseen Dulaimi said.

U.S. military officials refused to confirm or deny reports that a Ramadi offensive was underway.

Thousands of families remain trapped in the city, those who have fled say. Many can't afford to leave or lack transportation, whereas other families have decided to wait for their children to finish final examinations at school before escaping.

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:54 AM
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1. Evidence of great US-Iraq coordination.
US refuses to confirm an attack about which the Iraqi government is broadcasting warnings in the streets.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:17 AM
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2. Gee, this worked so well in the past ...
:puke:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:26 AM
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3. Population panicked? Are they out of flowers?
Isn't that the usual response when the American wehrmacht comes rumbling into town? Maybe they're panicked because they don't have enough Chinese made American flags to wave at their "liberators"?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:57 PM
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11. Not quite
> .. when the American wehrmacht comes rumbling into town?

The Wehrmacht were mainly regular troops; the "heroes" of Fallujah, Abu Ghraib
and Haditha are more like the SS ...
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:17 PM
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4. And just WHY are we in Iraq? I forget...
Wasn't it because Iraq had weapons or something?


How long are Americans going to sit by and
let this insanity continue?

BHN:banghead:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 04:43 PM
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8. they will sit by because
they have no fucking clue that the USA is slaughtering literally Hundreds of Thousands of innocent Iraqis for OIL and Hegemony!

:puke:
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:14 PM
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9. Too many people I know only get faux news.
Clueless what is going on in the real world.

Please give your son a hug for me. I hope he grows up to be President of the real USA!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 05:43 PM
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10. you are so sweet!
and I will give him double hugs! He is so smart that he understands we need to leave the USA because we has no vote. We are checking out Canada this summer.

peace,
lc

:)
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:09 PM
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5. Gee, I missed this bit of news on the Sunday shows
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 02:13 PM by lyonn
Must not be much to it? Sarcasm

Edit: How many U.S. troops will be creamed in this bush adventure? How many Iraqis will be also? When does this insanity stop.
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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:20 PM
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6. This phrase seems familiar
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 02:21 PM by electricmonk
"Thousands of families remain trapped in the city, those who have fled say. Many can't afford to leave or lack transportation,"

Must be the mayor's fault for not having busses ready. :sarcasm:
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:49 PM
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15. Its a shame
That there is no chance in the world that anybody in the MSM would say such a thing.

Wouldn't be nice if we had a country where that kind of comparision was actually on the "news."
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 02:57 PM
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7. Zarqawi is dead
So, Bush has to create a new Zarqawi by making war on another city.

I am impressed that people are willing to risk being caught up in the battles so that their kids can finish school. That shows real forbearance and stoicism. How long can a population like that be suppressed by foreigners?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:02 PM
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12. So, US troops are now going to lay seige to Ramadi, eh? (AGAIN)
Well, how many more times will US and Iraqi troops work together to liberate Ramadi from terrorists?


Let's count up the previous attempts, shall we?




November 18, 2003
U.S. Troops Leave Iraqi City, Hand Control Over to Iraqis
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V123/N57/iraq_long1_57.57w.html
A U.S. commander is preparing to pull troops back from Ramadi, a city at the center of guerrilla activity, and turn it over to Iraqi officers, an experiment that could change the course of the occupation of Iraq.

...

Ramadi, the provincial capital, with about 250,000 residents, has been a center of armed resistance against the U.S. occupation.

...

But Swannack said he had made steady progress in Ramadi, not just in training security forces but also in winning over allegiance from residents.




May 2004
Iraqis and U.S. Troops Work Together in Towns of Ramadi and Hit
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/05/20040504-2.html
Iraq Fact of the Day

Working together, Iraqis and U.S. troops are making a real difference in the lives of families in Ramadi and Hit, two towns in the so-called Baathist Triangle. Marines delivered 10 newly painted police cars to the police chief in Hit, and other Marines helped Iraqis in Ramadi break ground for a new medical clinic. A school in Ramadi received a truckload of supplies from the Marines, including air conditioners, ceiling fans, refrigerators and school desks. These are just a few examples of the ways U.S. troops and Iraqis are working together to improve life in Iraq.

Source: U.S. Marines Corps




July 23 2004
Falluja parallels in Ramadi
http://csmonitor.com/2004/0723/p06s01-woiq.html
RAMADI, IRAQ – Some of the heaviest fighting in months erupted on Wednesday in the troubled city of Ramadi. Throughout the day, the thud of mortars, bombs, and machine-gun fire echoed down desolate streets as insurgents battled hundreds of US Marines.




Nov 2004 (Some "real difference" they made)
20 US soldiers wounded in Ramadi
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-11/06/content_389175.htm
Twenty American soldiers were wounded in the Sunni Triangle city of Ramadi on Saturday, the U.S. military said without elaborating. Residents of that insurgent stronghold, located 70 miles west of Baghdad, reported clashes and explosions throughout the day.





Feb 2005
Marines launch bid to secure Ramadi ("Operation River Blitz ")
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1251865


Feb 2005
Citizens escape Ramadi
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=7313
Residents of Ramadi, the capital of the western Anbar province, started to escape the city after the latest assault launched by U.S. occupation forces and Iraqi troops.




May 2005
General strike against occupation in Iraqi city of Ramadi
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=6522
Iraqis in the city of Ramadi and neighbouring towns held a general strike last weekend in a protest against a blockade by US troops. The strike was called as US troops mounted a major offensive on villages and towns along the Euphrates river up to the border with Syria.

Sheikh Majeed al-Gaood, of the Duleim tribe from Ramadi, spoke to Socialist Worker by telephone from the Jordanian capital, Amman. He said that on Friday 7 May, after US troops surrounded the city, “a call came from the mosques for a general strike in Ramadi and neighbouring towns. Schools, markets and offices shut down in protest at the blockade”.




June 2005
Gunmen take over Ramadi as bomb kills five marines
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1508573,00.html
Insurgents have taken over much of the Iraqi city of Ramadi and used it to launch attacks against US forces while terrorising the population with public beheadings.





Sep 29, 2005
Roadside Bomb Kills Five American Soldiers During Combat in Western Iraqi Town of Ramadi
http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCoverage/wireStory?id=1169957
A roadside bomb killed five American soldiers during combat in the western town of Ramadi, a hotbed of insurgent activity, the U.S military said Thursday.




Oct 2005
US troops deny firing on civilians as 70 die in air strikes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/18/wirq18.xml
The US military said the casualties were the result of operations started on Sunday to combat insurgent groups that have taken control of parts of Ramadi recently.




April 2006
Iraqi Troops Start Rolling Out in Ramadi
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2217876



May 22, 2006
Insurgents Keep U.S. at Bay in Ramadi
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/05/22/214776-insurgents-keep-us-at-bay-in-ramadi
RAMADI, IRAQ — Whole neighborhoods are lawless, too dangerous for police. Some roads are so bomb-laden that U.S. troops won't use them. Guerrillas attack U.S. troops nearly every time they venture out — and hit their bases with gunfire, rockets or mortars when they don't.




And now:

Iraqis flee Ramadi as troops mass
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-ramadi11jun11,0,6003091.story?track=mostviewed-storylevel
Fears of an imminent offensive by the U.S. troops massed around the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi intensified Saturday, with residents pouring out of the city to escape what they describe as a mounting humanitarian crisis.


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dmoded Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:09 PM
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13. cmon troops!! you can win this battle against the elderly and innocent!!
Jesus christ, on this same token they dare say they are there spreading democracy..

"We are coming to your village, pounding.. get the hell out of your houses before we shell you, and come door to door with our handcuffs"

yup, dubya's definition of "Liberation" .

when will they realize, they are -currently- occupying someone elses land. it won't and will not last, but for the troops- blare the heavy metal, shoot first- ask later! its worked so far right?

pfft.... cowards..

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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:44 PM
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14. Many can't leave, some with no transportation, WTF? And the US
cordones off the city forcing many to remain? Another US massacre in the brew.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 07:56 PM
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16. Just like Fallujah
and many other un-named villages across Iraq. Wholesale slaughter ahead. :cry:
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:32 PM
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17. kick
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:55 PM
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18. Our troops need to come home!
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