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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:08 PM
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Zarqawi earns Time Magazine's signature 'bloody X' cover
A picture of Abu Mousab al-Zarqawi, the former leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq killed late Wednesday evening in a US air raid attack, appears on the cover of the latest issue of Time, sporting the magazine's signature 'bloody X' across his face, a 'tradition' that began in May 1945.

Adolf Hitler appeared on the first Time 'bloody X' cover before his suicide became known, and Saddam Hussein earned one in April of 2003 to mark the end of the Iraqi president's reign but before he had been captured. "No one knows for sure whether the Iraqi ruler is dead or alive," continued. "But this much was clear last week: Saddam Hussein's regime had been 'X-ed.'"

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Zarqawi_earns_Time_Magazines_signature_bloody_0611.html
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:16 PM
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1. All right, who is going to photoshop the war criminal in chief. n/t
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:55 PM
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5. That would be pretty easy, I bet even I could do it...
...But I'll let someone else, because I can't stand looking at the shrub anymore.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:27 AM
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13. Do it to this one
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:06 PM
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18. Hm, maybe this will do
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:08 PM
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19. That's Really Good
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 01:09 PM by saigon68
Excellent job
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:54 PM
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20. Good Job! n/t
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:24 PM
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2. When did the practice of putting the subject OVER the magazine title...
begin?

It irritates the shit out of me. SOmetimes, they obscure the title so much I'm not sure what magazine it is. Look at the '45 cover. TIME plain as day at the top and the picture below. Not so with the modern versions.

Sorry, just an annoyance.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:26 PM
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3. The "M" forms devil's horns. One more chance to demonize. n/t
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:58 PM
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7. Uh...yeah...ok
Edited on Sun Jun-11-06 08:59 PM by Catch22Dem
And the reason these other magazines to it is tied to what conspiracy?
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ZanyPlebeian Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:38 PM
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4. Am I the only one...?
...who thinks that putting Zarqawi in the same category as Hitler is pathetic?
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letsgonova19087 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:32 PM
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8. Not really
Both were sick, sick people. In fact, I don't recall Hitler ever actually sawing someone's head off personally. Hitler was responsible for the deaths of far more, but if Zarqawi had a force with comprable firepower to the Third Reich, I think that he would have killed just as many. Regardless of whether his importance was inflated, he was a bad guy and the world is better off without him.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:41 PM
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10. That may be, but it still inflates his importance
There have been 100's of characters worse than Zarqawi since 1945, and they didn't get this treatment from Time.

Two fairly non-controversial examples might be:
Pol Pot
Idi Amin
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:50 AM
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15. Don't forget the 2 biggest mass murderers...
Joseph Stalin (upwards of 30 million)

Chairman Mao (Between his "Great Leap Forward" fueled famine, and the "Cultural Revolution", although exact numbers may never be known, estimates of 25 - 40 million. I can't find any archived copies of TIME with their pics.
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letsgonova19087 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:11 PM
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16. Certainly
I'm actually a little suprised that Stalin didn't get the treatment...

But I guess there's something to be said for physically being at war with someone and killing them.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:01 PM
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17. Stalin had been an ally in WWII, and Russia bore the brunt of the war
So, that made it tricky for the western press (only a decade or so had passed since the end of the war). And the west wanted rapprochement with China at about the time that Mao died, so the "X"ing would have gone against that strategic aim.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:25 PM
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21. Well, if you want to talk "Straterery"
Wouldn't pissing off a billion muslims also require discretion in who we "X" out?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:17 PM
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23. Sometimes it seems like that is the strategy
"pissing off a billion muslims."

Either that, or the leadership was a lot smarter in the past.
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letsgonova19087 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:21 PM
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24. How
many of that billion have we not pissed off already?
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:50 PM
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9. no, you're not..
this guy's contribution to the "insurgency" has been overhyped. Comparing him to Hitler or Saddam is way over the top. Nice bit of psyops, though.

BTW, welcome to the board. :hi:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:02 PM
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22. I agree with you. Time is giving Zarqawi way too much credit, but...
...it looks to me like they lost their credibility when they put Saddam on the cover before they knew he was dead. Especially since Saddam was a former allied Dictator, created by the U.S., turned scape-goat.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 08:56 PM
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6. Hey, if bloody Christ on the cross makes DOLLARS, why NOT??????n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:43 PM
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11. Let's make TIME put a bloody X on Bush and Cheney, shall we?
We must insist on an international war crimes trial for Bush, Cheney, and Blair. It is the only way to do penance for the crimes the US has committed.
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:14 AM
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12. Time is a pathetic scandal rag.

Zarqawi's importance has been drastically inflated by the DoD, and so was Hussein's as a matter of fact. They were scumbags and the world is a better place with them out of action (though Zarqawi should have been kept alive for questioning if possible) but they aren't anywhere close to Hitler.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:35 AM
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14. & they're BEHEADED, too n/t
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