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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:15 AM
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Venezuela Defies U.S., Seeks U.N. Council Seat, Kalashnikovs

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1865099&C=america

Venezuela Defies U.S., Seeks U.N. Council Seat, Kalashnikovs

President Hugo Chavez said June 11 that he will defy U.S. opposition to a seat for Venezuela on the U.N. Security Council, as well as a U.S. bid to deny him weaponry.

”Venezuela is a candidate and will not withdraw as candidate for a seat on the U.N. Security Council. With any weapon at hand, like David against Goliath, we don’t care if the empire bares its claws and pressures other governments,” he said on his June 11 television and radio talk show, “Hello, Mr. President,” referring to the United States as “the empire.”

”We are confronting imperialism in a brutal way,” Chavez said. “The empire has already begun to oppose it,” he said of Caracas’ candidacy, through “psychological warfare,” “pressure” and “blackmail” of other nations.

Chavez also said he would ignore U.S. pressures to deny him weapons, and that Venezuela will make its own assault rifles.

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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:19 AM
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1. This should get interesting
:popcorn: :popcorn:

I'm just waiting for all the Chavez haters to jump in here.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:25 AM
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2. Chavez is a thug.
And he is sitting on our oil.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:27 AM
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3. Oh, don't forget, he's a dick-tater, too
:silly:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:58 PM
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24. No He is Not... But Bush is
big difference.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:05 PM
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26. Exactly, what balls! Sitting on OUR oil!!
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:30 AM
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4. Yeah Chevaz is a little sh*tdisturber...
Venezuela should be more pliant, like the Red States...
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:31 AM
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5. I love Chavez.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:32 AM
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6. Take a note. How many things has Chavez done against us? Would
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 11:33 AM by higher class
you say that he has mostly spoken up, been verbal, and offered/provided free or reduced cost fuel to the poor in our country.

(Supposedly, he involved himself in helping with the elections of the candidate he supported in Salvador? and Peru? - something I haven't investigated yet for my take on the truth of his harming anyone).

But, as far as this country - I ask you to take note. At any moment the war rhetoric is going to get kicked up and he will be portrayed as our enemy more than they are portraying it today. He is going to be held up as a physical enemy of this country.

So far, I can' only think of words that have come out of his mouth when standing up to us, to our imperialism.

He has stood up to the oil companies, the usury banks, and the people involved with arranging the coup against him, not us.

He is finding partners in other countries, suppliers in other countries, he has helped Bolivia and Argentina pay off some of their usury debts. His own people are reducing their poverty count. Their literacy is rising.

He has not waged war on us, but that is what we have to look forward to.

We are up to $70.00 a barrel partly because of our disregard for a duly elected President of a company - one that won't play ball with userers and dominators.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:01 PM
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11. It didn't happen. Those reports come from the equivalent
of Chalabi. Here's what the Venezuela Info Office put out in response to those claims:

Garcia Wins Peruvian Presidency
Alan Garcia won Peru’s presidential election last Sunday, after campaigning to be a counterbalance to President Chavez’s influence in the region. In the weeks leading up to the vote, Chavez and Venezuela’s supposed “meddling” became a major theme in the election.

Particularly harmful were accusations that Venezuela had been secretly funneling money to the campaign of Garcia opponent Ollanta Humala. It turns out, however, that these stories, which inflamed the Peruvian press, were based largely on the testimony of one man, Moisés Boyer, who has been discredited in the past for fabricating his background to make similar false testimony in other countries.



Fraudulent Allegations
In 2003, Boyer claimed to have evidence that Venezuela was sending money to leftist guerilla groups in Colombia. In an interview with the Bogotá-based newspaper El Espectador, Boyer claimed to be the pilot of a plane that flew an Armed Forced of Colombia (FARC) commander into Venezuela on orders from Venezuela's Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel. But the story wasn’t true. Boyer had lied about his background and the events of the story. In a remarkable retraction published on August 12, 2003, El Espectador said it had been “deceived by Moises Roberto Boyer Riobueno,” maintaining that the newspaper now felt “the conviction that the interviewee lied to us.?? The newspaper apologized to its readers for giving credibility to Boyer’s story. Boyer was eventually deported from Colombia and has lived in Trijillo, Peru ever since.

This time around, Boyer identified himself as a member of the Venezuelan military, an impossible feat for a man who had left Venezuela years earlier. Unfortunately, his story had a strong influence over Peru’s elections.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:24 PM
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13. Thanks for that info. It's truly amazing how PNAC-AEI find these
fool-operatives. How they ingratiate themselves to the WH and CIA, how they get in trouble with the WH-CIA (Chalabi-bin Laden-Trujillo), how they get publicity, how entire countries can fall for the propaganda.

I'm grateful for your post.

I now have another name to add to the fool list -

Moises Roberto Boyer Riobueno.

I'm sure he will pop up again.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:33 PM
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21. Just when you think they can't surprise you with the level
of their mendacity, they do it again. It's like a magic trick.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:41 AM
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7. Venezuela make its own assault rifles. Explains steel industry ramp-up.
Chavez reported sinking millions into revamping and putting into place steel industry infrastructure in his country. I figured this was for weapons production purposes.

J
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:00 PM
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10. Steel for oil tanks, too...

... they need their own steel mills if they want to build and modernize the country, plus it is good economic sense to produce your own if possible, in respect to Venezuela's situation.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:15 PM
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12. Industry that we might have been part of had we not been attacking him?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:54 PM
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15. Hardly.
His brand of populism requires a strong enemy, both at home and abroad; if he doesn't have one, he'll make one. Even if we'd have sucked up to him, he'd be America-bashing at every opportunity. He had only vitriol for the US before the US really had an opportunity to say anything bad about him.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:44 PM
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23. That sounds like U.S. politics too
"brand of populism requires a strong enemy, both at home and abroad; if he doesn't have one, he'll make one"

The current Republican administration does little else, although Democratic U.S. regimes have played this game too.
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PeaceProgProsp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:04 PM
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17. Venezuela's huge steel industry is decades old
by the way.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:45 AM
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8. Viva la revolucion!
Death to the Empire.
Long live the Republic of the United States

oh, and add, 'delete' the CIA, the NSA, and Negroponte's thugs and death squads.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:58 PM
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16. Have to send you to the "School of the Americas"
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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:55 AM
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9. Chavez isn't the devil the well to do would like to think
First the US tries to oust Chavez a duly elected president of Venezuela...when that didn't work one of our "God fearing" religious nuts that frequently communicate with Bush says we ought to assassinate Chavez. Well Mr. Bush and the religious nut case, I'm an American and I say LEAVE president Chavez ALONE, DAMN IT. I don't want my sons being killed and killing so the wealthy in this country can confiscate the wealth of other countries. Maybe the problem for the US is the wealthy that do not handle their wealth wisely for the good of all concerned. Frankly, I'm getting sick of the mess the wealthy make out of the lives of the common man. I wish more of you would wake up and smell the coffee and stop believing the crap your present administration is feeding you.

Chavez doesn't plan to invade the US. He is wisely setting up defense for his country...after all look what the US did to Iraq. Who the hell wouldn't be afraid of the US? North Korea is scared so they are preparing for their countries defense. Only an idiot would expect other countries to just sit there and take orders and not defend themselves.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:26 PM
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14. Chavez to visit North Korea and Iran, what great company...
Chavez, King Jong II, and Ahmadinejad.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:04 PM
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18. Coincidentally all nations that have been declared to be the enemy
by G W Bush and the neocon gang.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:58 PM
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20. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. /nm
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 03:58 PM by jseankil
nm
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 05:18 AM
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29. that hardly counts as evidence for those nations being "evil"
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:06 PM
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19. I'm sure he'd be happy to come to Washington, too
if somebody asked him. Then you could add Bush to your list of evils.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:59 PM
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25. Kinda Like the US?
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 07:00 PM by stepnw1f
dude... give it up already. It's getting old.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:49 AM
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28. Totally dude, thanks for the post, so insightful mannnnn. /nm
nm
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:39 PM
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22. You mean a sovereign nation bought rifles?
That's defying the U.S.?
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:22 PM
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27. nice to see SOMEONE standing up to BushCo. for a change
and i've gotta say i find this knee-jerk attacks against chavez pretty strange. its something i've come to expect more from free republic than here.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:21 PM
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30. Oh no! They're defying the US! Not the US!
WTF kind of stupid shit line is that?

How about "* Defies World, Invades Iraq Illegally"

* defied the US and appointed his piece of shit to the UN seat.
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