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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:50 PM
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U.S. Senate rebuffs Bush on war budgeting (no more "emergency funding")
http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2006-06-14T224216Z_01_N14267878_RTRIDST_0_IRAQ-CONGRESS-USA.XML

WASHINGTON, June 14 (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate voted unanimously on Wednesday to force President George W. Bush to submit a budget for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars instead of financing them in emergency bills that are pushed through Congress with minimal scrutiny.

As Congress prepared to pass an emergency bill with $65.8 billion the Pentagon urgently wanted for the wars, the Senate voted 98-0 to end the practice and make the administration lay out the wars' expected costs in its annual budget submitted to Congress in February.

The vote came on an amendment to legislation spelling out defense policies for next year that is expected to trigger a broader debate on Iraq. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts said he would push an amendment calling for the withdrawal of U.S. troops by the end of this year, while other Democrats are considering measures calling for a phased withdrawal.

Including the latest emergency bill, the wars' cost will reach $420 billion, said Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican who sponsored the amendment.

"We're adding hundreds of billions to conveniently named emergency expenditures" that do not have to be accounted for in the budget, he said.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:51 PM
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1. Ok who gave the spine transplant?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 06:31 AM
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30. someone check the water. we have to be hallucinating. nt
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:59 AM
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36. And that this pathetic little gesture would be considered having a spine.
My, how the mighty have fallen.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:51 PM
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2. Hooray, major progress, hooray
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 05:52 PM by MissWaverly
:-), Kicked, we need some good news on the top of DU.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:54 PM
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3. Really? 98 to 0?
Who wasn't there?

I'm shocked there weren't any suckups who wanted to give continuing carte blanche to Cons.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:55 PM
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4. Well, there goes Bush's good week! The clown can stop smiling now. nt
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 05:56 PM
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5. Can't Dubya just do away with this by using a "signing statement"?
Just curious.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:02 PM
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7. no shoot..
like this is really gonna happen.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:04 PM
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21. Like the conf. committee stripped out the "no permanent bases"provision?
There's no end to this shame.


June 13, 2006

Unfortunately, the Bush administration is unwilling to put a policy commitment behind its its promises to eventually leave Iraq. Both the House and Senate versions of a supplemental appropriations bill that includes war funding added amendments to preclude the possibility of permanent bases in Iraq.

However, after the spending bill went through a House-Senate conference committee to reconcile differences, the final version emerged with no mention of restrictions on permanent bases. Rep. Barbara Lee, the Oakland Democrat who authored the House amendment to prohibit the use of funds for permanent bases in Iraq, suspects the Republican conferees got a nudge from the White House. After all, the Lee amendment was hardly controversial in the House -- it had a bipartisan list of 81 co-sponsors and had been attached by voice vote.

"It's an example of their abuse of power," Lee said by telephone Monday. "It's really evidence that they are not willing to level with the American people."



The repugs voted *for* this amendment because they knew they would never be able to justify it in a floor debate. So, they make themselves out to be *heroes* in public, but let their shadowy network strip it back out of the spending bill. Nice, huh?

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:22 PM
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22. That really irked me too. Why do we even have a congress
or senate anymore? He can just wipe out all their efforts by this signing statement thing. Why isn't Reid or somebody screaming about this?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:10 AM
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33. Congress contols the purse strings
No way around that.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:01 PM
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6. I guess they'll be building...
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 06:08 PM by Kutjara
...100 new cells in Guantanamo for these 'asymmetric' Congressmen.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:07 PM
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8. About time
It's officially over. Bush's good week just went down the drain.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:08 PM
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9. Translated: FU, GWB. It's about time.
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 06:14 PM by Lastlaughin08
Make this piss-poor excuse for a president beg on his knees for the money, and then say NO!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:09 PM
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10. Cutting and running! They don't support the troops!
101st Fighting Keyboarders Attack! Bring in the 82nd Chairborne Division!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:12 PM
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11. Thank you for doing YOUR JOB U.S. Senate!
Edited on Wed Jun-14-06 06:21 PM by CountAllVotes
Thanks for doing what you are being paid for: Representing We the People!!!

U.S. OUT OF IRAQ!

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!!

CANNOT WAIT FOR 2008!!!


On edit: That is FANTASTIC! A unanimous vote for the first time ever that I am aware of and this is probably one of THE most important things that could have been done by the U.S. Senate. It sends out a message loud and clear! No more for for the Iraq war! :D :D :D :D :D :party:

THANK YOU SENATORS! THANK YOU!!! :D


:dem: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:31 PM
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20. You mean 2006.
Can't wait for 2006.

Democratic House and Senate in 2006=Hearings, investigations and impeachments in 2007.

Peace

:)
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:17 PM
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12. I'm speechless
but in a good way I guess.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:24 PM
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13. it is a real shocker!
and I am very happy about it and I hope that this is the beginning of the end for the Iraq/Afghanistan crap. No $98 billion more. Lame duck * has no options on this one. :nopity: for you *.

Bring our troops home now! :D

:dem: :kick:

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:28 PM
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14. It's About Time--Only 6 Years Too Late
One little finger in the whole leaking dike....


After 230 years, we are seeing the end of the ending.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:32 PM
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15. The reality of looming elections is finally starting to set in, apparently
'Bout freakin time!
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 06:51 PM
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16. Tough Talk that's a little
late--they should have been doing this all the long instead of avoiding their Constitutional role as a 'check' on the Bush war balance...

But it will all be for naught anyhow, this 'spine' will crumble at the first sign of a new Bush war and the blank checks will be again issued by a Congress scared shitless that their patriotism will be questioned and accused of jeopardizing 'national' security.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:15 PM
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17. R = W & W = Iraq & Iraq = one bloody boondoggle => some nervous nellies
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:24 PM
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18. "But...but...but...ahm a war time president. Ahm the decider!"

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:34 PM
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19. Will this make it through conference committee?
Even with the signing statements, * still has trouble ignoring Congress when it comes to getting funding.
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noshenanigans Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:31 PM
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23. So no more hiding Katrina funding in the proposals? n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:11 PM
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24. 98-0 Can you say
Mid-Term Elections?

I thought you could.

-Hoot
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:28 PM
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25. i cant believe im reading this
:wow: :wow: :wow:
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:41 AM
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26. Hoping the spine transplant quickens before Rove kicks over the morphine
Does anyone think that the Zerkawi "hit" was in the bag?

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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:44 AM
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27. All the money is probably gone.
Criminals.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:50 AM
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28. Three years overdue but OK.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 05:21 AM
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29. Might this hurt R's by putting budget deficit OVER 5% GDP???
RepubliCONs have touted that BORROWING has been less than 5% GDP in order to pacify and fool conservatives that the excessive borrowing in not excessive.

The SPECIAL Iraq war funding bills did not go into the budget so, the over 5% situation was hidden.

Will the R's have trouble going over 5%?

Will the R's move to stop borrowing just in time for Dem takeover tying the hands of us good guys?

Inquiring minds want to know... I want to know.
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 08:17 AM
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31. Talk is Cheap - it'll never actually happen
Two key paragraphs:

The amendment would only apply to war spending and would allow additional emergency Pentagon spending with justification.

The House of Representatives passed its version of the defense authorization bill in May without a similar measure to end the war supplementals.



It sounds nice, but the monkeys will have to wait until Congress actually "enforces" this before flying out my ass.





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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:19 AM
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34. Exactly. It's symbolic posturing for the elections. (tm)
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Hard_Work Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:57 AM
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35. Exactly
My thoughts exactly. Gotta do something to convince the voters we are on their side. Smoke and mirrors.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 08:20 AM
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32. Senate hates troops!
.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:24 AM
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37. I smell a rat
This is way too good to be true. If six or seven repukes, or even 20 who had to stand for re-election, had come over to give the Dems a majority, I'd believe this is real. But there's no way in hell every single repuke decided to stand up to *asshat.

They've given themselves an out of some kind. We'll see later what it is.
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