Cheney: Iraq at a "Turning Point"

I'm getting dizzy from all that turning... :crazy:

I've lost track,but I am sure as the elections get closer, there will be more. More alerts more found intel. maybe a carrier landing or two, and don,t forget the gays and flag burners.

I just erupted in laughter. Don't they ever get tired of using that phrase. I seriously think these bums are starting to overestimate the gullibility of the public.

So, what happens when you keep turning in the same direction? NOTHING! You just wind up going in a circle. You are not getting any closer to finishing. So, yeah I have to agree with them that they are turning (either turning point or turning the corner). Stop going in circles and send our troops home!

We've had 500 right turns in the last three years.

:grr:

Nascar turns left.

-Hoot

other than my stomach, that is.

I will give Republicans credit for staying on message. They are, for the most part, one enormous echo chamber.

Saves on paper doncha know

go ahead. act like you REALLY mean it this time. break out the codpiece Dick.

talk is cheap asshole. let's go.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!! :eyes:

Lying, rat bastard!

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002690071

Hey Dick.

Kinda like you got a handle on Iraqi oil fields in March of 01?




this map was on your desk.

if cheney gets any bigger, maybe he will explode. One can hope.

right when they should be turning left!!!!:evilgrin:

the ground!

the usual, pre-November, "elect a Democrat and they won't protect you from the terra'sts like we have" speeches? Mention of terrorist strikes seem to be popping up more and more these past few days. Also, by cutting New York's funds, they are getting a lot of free publicity about terrorism, due to everyone complaining about being ignored by DHS.

Or do they know something we don't. (What else is new?)

from US Embassy in Baghdad, Details Increasing Danger and Hardship


"New York - The Washington Post has obtained a cable, marked "sensitive," that it says show that just before President Bush left on a surprise trip last Monday to the Green Zone in Baghdad for an upbeat assessment of the situation there, "the U.S. Embassy in Iraq painted a starkly different portrait of increasing danger and hardship faced by its Iraqi employees."

This cable outlines, the Post reported Sunday, "the daily-worsening conditions for those who live outside the heavily guarded international zone: harassment, threats and the employees' constant fears that their neighbors will discover they work for the U.S. government."

It's actually far worse than that, as the details published below indicate, which include references to abductions, threats to women's rights, and "ethnic cleansing."


You can learn the truth here:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061906L.shtml

Shredding documents. Staff afraid of local reprisal. Etc.

And the staff should be afraid. When the time comes, and it will--guaranteed---Mad George won't care about those who placed their trust in hime. They'll be left behind. Hey, that should be a book title, huh? The local staff of the embassy sadly, are as good as dead now.

If we abandon Iraq the way we abandoned S. Vietnam, I'm thinking we'll see a new version of the killing fields play out in the sands of the middle east. For ethical/moral reasons as well as political reasons, it's definitely something to consider as we argue about the conditions/timeline for redeployment of US forces.

Prove reliability to allies. It has all been said before.

The insurgency is in it's third generation, and their goal is to convert ALL the Muslim countries in the middle east to Sharia law, governments run under the laws of the Koran.

No matter the outcome of our foray into Iraq, and I can't imagine an outcome that would guarantee peace in Iraq in the near future, the middle east is a tinder box that's just waiting for a match to set it off. Our invasion of Iraq IS that match as the insurgency has grown around it. Egypt should be next, and Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan and the others.

All have active Jihadist movements.


We must admit that no matter what our moralist leaders say, there is no way we can control the middle east at this point. I don't believe that we will set the conditions or timeline for our leaving, as both the new president and vice president of Iraq asked Mad George to set the timeline already. He will not do that. I believe that we face an Iraq that will unite against us. Polls show that 80% of Iraqis want us out of there. And 40% of Iraqis believe it's moral to kill American soldiers. We have won no hearts and minds. We have managed to turn the entire Muslim world against us.

BTW I don't like that doublespeak word "redeployment". I prefer the plain language terms: Bug Out, or withdraw, or run like hell.

and his cronies just around the bend.

How is this sentence going to make us feel any better? You claim we are turning the corner, getting a handle on the long term, bla bla bla........

Cheney said the biggest threat "now is the possibility of an al-Qaeda cell armed with a nuclear weapon or a biological agent in the middle of one of our cities."

If we were doing the things you say Dick, how could these threats exist?
:mad:

delivered to al Qaeda's front door for their convenience.

As long as bush is doing what al Qaeda wants, there is no need to attack America.

Cheney said the biggest threat "now is the possibility of an al-Qaeda cell armed with a nuclear weapon or a biological agent in the middle of one of our cities."


Damn him. Keep the fear alive is all they know.

There is another thread on Cheney's speech but this is from a Q&A after the speech.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=alTj0kZnWubQ&refer=us

June 19 (Bloomberg) -- Vice President Dick Cheney said that while the administration underestimated the strength of anti- American violence in Iraq, he still believes the insurgency is in its ``last throes,'' as he asserted last year.

``I don't think anybody anticipated the level of violence we encountered,'' Cheney said in a question-and-answer session following a speech today at the National Press Club in Washington.

The past 18 months will be viewed by history and a crucial period for democracy in Iraq as ``Iraqis increasingly took over responsibility for their own affairs,'' Cheney said.

Asked if he still believed the insurgency was in its final throes, as he said in a CNN interview on May 31, 2005, Cheney said, ``I do.'' He cited election of an interim government, a constitutional referendum and parliamentary elections in December that established a unity government as evidence the insurgency is being pushed to the margins.

comprehend what is going on, who weren't blinded by avaricious dreams and the lust for power.

Very long.

there would be no insurgency.

I remember even "loyal soldiers" of the BFEE being amazed he'd say something that assinine at the time ... HE may have underestimated it; many others DIDN'T.

too! He's just another stupid a** who can't ever admit a mistake!!!!!

Is that what the GOP stands for these days?

10 million 'nobodies' got out on the street and warned the dweebs who wanted to send other peoples kids to go kill brown people that this would happen, and it did.

Cheney will go down in history along with the worst of the SS crowd in Nazi Germany.

He is one sick fuck, and I don't mean his circulatory coagulation, I mean his manipulating, lying, beastly soul

my eyes, my eyes!!!

damn you Frosted, damn you!!

You owe me some eye clorox!!

:-)

That's a lot of throwing.

Remember, don't believe ANYTHING these bastars say!

I can easily believe it, but that's a higher number than I've seen recently.

flowers at our troops?????

Deadeye Dick, on target as always

Is Cheney trying to break a world record for being wrong or something?

and the 'terrorists with nukes' bit too? they must be getting desperate.

He seems to have lost it, just around the corner, at a turning point.
:sarcasm:

retread of tired propaganda...as seen in Vietnam...

. a compass in the bermuda triangle.

If someone from the press can ask him,

A) What the fuck are we doing there
B) What exactly have we accomplished other than creating a wasteland? (Out of former babylon)
C) How has haliburton soared since this invasion?

If he had an actual reply, we know he'd have to resign out of pure embarassment, perhaps his pacemaker would give out at question #2 but i'd love for him to actually address issues not 'state bullshit' which is what this administration is infamous for.

They're really lifelike, but they need some serious reprogramming if they want to interact with humans.

And send him to Iraq.

every time there is a "turning point" everybody take a shot!

:toast:

If you take to many 'turns', you end up right back where you started. Just a heads up, you Dickless simp-gimp.

FUCK YOU CHENEY

Another lie he continues to spew.

Just read these two paragraphs".

"Cheney said the principal reason Americans have been "safe and secure" in the United States during the past five years is that the United States has "gotten extremely aggressive at taking the battle to the enemy overseas."

...

Cheney said the biggest threat "now is the possibility of an al-Qaeda cell armed with a nuclear weapon or a biological agent in the middle of one of our cities."

Americans have been "safe and secure" under Bush. WATCH OUT A NUKE IS GOING TO EXPLODE IN ONE OF OUR CITIES!!!!!!!

Dick said "...United States has not suffered another terrorist attack since Sept. 11, 2001."

Does not the anthrax attacks upon Democratic leaders and other citizens count as a terrorist attack?
Could it be that Dick doesn't view inside jobs as terrorist attacks?

This coming from a zero-credibility corrupt criminal. Not interested in what he's got to say.