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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:59 PM
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Albright: Iraq invasion encouraged others (Iran and N. Korea)
Albright: Iraq invasion encouraged others
By ALEX NICHOLSON, Associated Press Writer
Mon Jun 19, 3:30 PM ET

MOSCOW - Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright criticized the U.S. invasion of Iraq, saying Monday it had encouraged Iran and North Korea to push ahead with their nuclear programs.

Albright, who served under President Clinton, said "the message out of Iraq is the wrong one."

"The message out of Iraq is that if you don't have nuclear weapons, you get invaded. If you do have nuclear weapons, you don't get invaded," she said after an investors' conference in Moscow.

Albright visited North Korea in October 2000, becoming the highest-level American official ever to travel to the country. The two nations do not have formal diplomatic relations.

(more)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060619/ap_on_re_eu/russia_albright

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 11:51 PM
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1. And it is really as simple as that....
This administration has never thought long term or what impact their actions might have on the world......

I want to see them go to the Hague....
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:05 AM
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2. One quote from Lee Iaccoca on the (mi$-)administration:
(It can be found in this months issue of Calabasas magazine.)

Q. "What sort of CEOs do you think George W. Bush and his administration make?"
Lee Iaccoca. "I make speeches for the Washington Speakers Bureau, get $75,000 for 30 minutes, and all I ever say is, "Here's what management is about. Hire good people and set some basic priorities and objectives" Well, let's see how George Bush qualifies. The people that surround him are just friends, and I think most of them just schmucks, because I know a lot of them. Who runs the country? Cheney, is getting old and sick and had this hunting accident. And "Rummy," Rumsfeld, whom I know real well -- they've been together forever, and they run the country. They had Condoleezza Rice for lunch. I don't know what she's got on Bush, but, boy, he believes in her. Other than those three, the mastermind of them all, the boy genius, is Karl Rove -- slime bucket that he is. You've got to know him to see how slimy he is."

The BFEE At The Hague. Pre$to.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:14 AM
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3. Ummmm...
That was the message during the 45 year long Cold War.

The war in Iraq, and this administration, are not the beginning nor the end of history.

We just need to sanction countries, even though those sanctions never touch the leaders that cause the sanctioning, only the expendable sub-humans. They're worth it, or so we're told.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:29 AM
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4. have you noticed
that when bush looks into someone's boy part (eyes, heart, soul) - North Korea and or Iran start to feel neglected - they start to act up yelling "pay attention to me"?

bush looks like a one man bucket brigade trying to put out several fires at once and the bucket leaks



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joldnir Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:36 AM
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5. I think that it is more than that.
Remember when dip-shit was using the axis of evil to describe Iraq, Iran and NK? * was the one to group them. Then Iraq gets invaded upon a pack of lies. Naturally, the other two would do everything to get all means of protecting themselves.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:25 PM
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6. Wasting our national resources in a futile effort
We've empowered Iran and N.Korea. We've lost our flexible response to any international challenge. We pissed it away on an elective war.

I agree with the generals that say it is a greater strategic blunder than the Vietnam War. We are being bled white in material terms (which of course, military contractors love) on a mission that can never succeed.

Our strategic rivals are laughing all the way to the bank as they increase their foreign reserves and capital spending at our expense. We in the meantime are stuck in a terrible tar pit of unimaginable dimensions.

We will continue to suffer socially, economically, and politically for some time to come, as a result of this misguided policy of hegemony and empire.

We should have been spending these resources on a new Manhattan project of energy developement and renewing our commercial infrastructure AT HOME. In the meantime we are no longer competitive economically and must seize markets, just as a paranoid Germany and Japan did in the last century.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:14 PM
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7. Albright hangs with James Baker at the Eurasia Group
Just making a note of this. Essentially, we don't get a broad spectrum of opinions, ideas and views. It's always the flip side of virtually the same coin/policy.

Half-listening to BBC News, it had a spokesmodel from the Eurasia Group commenting on the Mexican election ... I think trying to marginalize the ability of the next Mexican president and how he can't do and be like Chavez ... not sure why BBC felt someone involved with the geopolitics of the Caspian Sea Basin was the best to have on to comment ... BBC seems to always draw upon corporatists-globalists-internationalists-council on foreign policy, etc. types for comments, never having someone to counter the remarks.

I checked to see what SourceWatch had to say about the Eurasia Group ...

The Eurasia Foundation is a Washington-based non-profit group that is "supported by the United States Agency for International Development and other public and private donors."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Eurasia_Foundation#Advisory_Council


and, noticed that both Albright and Baker are Chairs of its Advisory Council ...

Chairs

Martti Ahtisaari - Crisis Management Initiative
Madeleine Albright - The Albright Group
James A. Baker III - Baker Botts, LLP
Lawrence S. Eagleburger - Baker, Donelson, Bearman & Caldwell, PC

Members have included Frank Carlucci of the Carlyle Group; and, Poppy Bu$h presidential foundation trustee Robert Strauss of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld.











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MagniCynic Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:21 PM
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8. Wait so let me get this straight
If we hadn't invaded Iraq, N.K. and Iran wouldn't have even bothered with nukes? They'd just be sitting over there hunky dory and not have any motivation whatsoever to develop nukes? Weren't Iran and N.K. already in the process of researching/developing nukes before we even invaded Iraq?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:35 PM
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10. I guess it depends on your perspective
If you were a Freeper, you may want to have this perspective
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joe_shmoe Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 09:47 PM
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9. -- Sign this petition against military action against Iran --

It is with grave concern that I observe the growing threat of a new U.S. war--this time against the people of Iran.

For a collection of articles and resources on this subject you can visit this link: http://reseaudesign.com/research/iran/iran_summery.html

I'm starting up a petition which I will be sending out to as many members of Congress as possible. I'm asking for help to get this signed by as many people, possible in the next month. Send it to as many people you can.

http://www.petitiononline.com/n0war1rn /


thanks,
J-shmoe
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