Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

McCain: Not Time to Withdraw From Iraq

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Left Coast Lynn Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:22 PM
Original message
McCain: Not Time to Withdraw From Iraq
June 21, 2006 — As relatives mourn the brutal slayings of two U.S. soldiers who disappeared Friday during an insurgent attack, the Senate today will debate two Democratic proposals on troop withdrawal from Iraq.

The Senate will debate Sen. John Kerry's proposal — which says essentially that all U.S. troops must be out of Iraq by July 2007 — and a nonbinding resolution that advocates a phased withdrawal, which would begin this year but has no specific end date.

"The administration's policy to date — that we'll be there for as long as Iraq needs us — will result in Iraq's depending upon us longer. We should tell the Iraqis that the American security blanket is not permanent," said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.

Opponents to the proposals say that troop withdrawal — and setting timetables — will embolden insurgents. They have argued that arbitrary timetables do not make sense for the mission in Iraq.

"If you have a planned withdrawal, there's going to be an end date, and we don't feel that's what's called for at this time," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. "We think that if you have a planned withdrawal, then you announce to the insurgents that you're leaving. There is an old adage that work expands to fill time."

McCain, who was a prisoner of war for five years, has repeatedly rejected comparisons between the war in Iraq and the Vietnam War...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/IraqCoverage/story?id=2101691&page=1

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
1. Let's see, what is McCain thinking?
Maybe he's thinking that for every two American soldiers mutilated, Bush's approval ratings will go up five points, so to get back into the high 50s...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. He wants to be a "war president"
to sort out all his issues relating to his own personal experience.

He KNOWS the horror of war, but doesn't seem to understand when to say it is best to change direction to succeed.

He thinks his past gives him some personal validation on the topic, and thinks he can change the incompetence on board now --- total denial as to how far gone we are there as far as I am concerned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I understand now, why lemmings go over the cliff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #4
10. He is WAY OVER THE CLIFF
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. McCain is **more** of a warmongerer than Rumsfield. Believe it or not.
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 09:34 PM by w4rma
McCain believes that if we pour **all** of America's resources into Iraq that we can "win". (Whatever "win" means.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
3. Has McCain even been to Iraq?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:08 PM
Response to Original message
5. McCain is in denial....could it be PTSD?
I am no psychologist but if he can't see the similarities and many of the Vietnam vets are......something is very wrong....


<snip>
McCain, who was a prisoner of war for five years, has repeatedly rejected comparisons between the war in Iraq and the Vietnam War...
<snip>
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 08:09 AM
Response to Original message
7. "McCain, who was a prisoner of war for five years"
"If you have a planned withdrawal, there's going to be an end date, and we don't feel that's what's called for at this time," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. "We think that if you have a planned withdrawal, then you announce to the insurgents that you're leaving. There is an old adage that work expands to fill time."


Big Question: Then why is he making statements like this?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 08:17 AM
Response to Original message
8. So when IS the time to withdraw, Mr. McCain?
And what will you say to the families of the dead between now and then? "Your son/daughter/husband/wife/mom/dad died so that we could get it through our thick heads that we should get out. Thank you for your sacrifice."

And if you don't think we should have a planned withdrawal, Mr. McCain, what sort of withdrawal are you advocating? An unplanned one? Well, that worked out real well at the end of the Vietnam war, didn't it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 08:22 AM
Response to Original message
9. Shut up McCain. Weren't you one of the 19 repukes
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 08:23 AM by antonialee839
prepared to give amnesty to Iraqis killing our soldiers during an ongoing war? I'm sick of these filthy bastards.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 09:03 AM
Response to Original message
11. "There is an old adage that work expands to fill time"...That's a new one!
So if we set a date, it might be that we overshoot the end of the war and we will stay and fight the war beyond the end of it? That's a good one. This creature is certifiable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 09:36 AM
Response to Original message
12. Sycophant mccain needs something to run on...
running on supporting the insurgents in Iraq just won't do it. check how he voted on the amnesty bill regarding the insurgents in Iraq. He's a real stand up guy suffering from some sort of mental issue.

he has officially become the assclown of politics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:26 AM
Response to Original message
13. Personally,
I have never thought of McCain as any "hero" as some say he is. Hell, what experience can a man give about actual combat when he was being held as a POW? This man in my opinion has capitalized on his being a POW whereas the others that were being held do not seek out any special reconigtion and contribute far more then McCain. McCain is the media darling and ever opportunity the media can highlight McCain they will and give a negative against others. If I were a Senate Democrat I would stay as far away from McCain as I could because all he will do is show how good he has support from Democrats. If I were Soros, I would run ad after ad showing McCain wrapping his arms around bush....and also show the picture of McCain and Bush eating cake while New Orleans and the gulf states were going through Katrina....and if ya want to take it one step more, then show all the things he has changed his mind on and run ad after ad of those flip flop ads....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. He also doesn't seemed to have accepted the truth about Vietnam
The recently declassified Kissinger letter shows that he was trying to negotiate with the Chinese an agreement that where the US would agree to withdraw if they agreed to an interval before the fall of Saigon. Kerry, in 1971, was absolutely on target when he said that the war was cotinuing just so the Nixon administation could save face.

This information should anger McCain. How many years was he in prison being tortured to save Nixon's face? (It makes a hell of lot more sense than the fact that he still thinks it was wrong to speak out.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 12:05 PM
Response to Original message
15. still trying to justify - being a POW the war has to have been for
a good reason - his mind is still warped into justifying the unjustifyable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 15th 2024, 05:35 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC