Defense Department Disavows Santorum’s WMD Claims

<http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/21/dod-disavows-santorum/>

Must see clip of Ricky getting the bad news!

that WMD's had finally been found and their president didn't really lie to them.

How sad and embarassing for them.

:nopity:

to apologize for calling Bush a liar.

not any.

phoney "Saddam was cozy with Al Queda story" on all of the talk shows.

Inqiuring minds want to know.

deal out of this.

Here's a peek of what's going on over there :blush: :blush: :blush:.....then :hurts:

Has anyone heard from The Darklord? The poor thing will be devastated.

in deep denial. :rofl:

priceless.

Pittsburgh. But -

DENIAL is Definitely NOT a River In Pittsburgh!

I'm gonna miss that Rickhead.

WERE wmd there!

:eyes::eyes::eyes:

nt

:rofl:

"ali muhammad aszerajan el aheed farted the other day and it was relly stinky. This is proof positive that wmd have been found. There were people who could not stay in the same room."
:rofl:

Transcript:

COMBS: Congressman, Senator, it’s Alan Colmes. Senator, the Iraq Survey Group — let me go to the Duelfer Report — says that Iraq did not have the weapons our intelligence believed were there. And Jim Angle reported this for Fox News quotes a defense official who says these were pre-1991 weapons that could not have been fired as designed because they already been degraded. And the official went on to say these are not the WMD’s this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had and not the WMD’s for which this country went to war. So the chest beating at this Republicans are doing tonight thinking this is a justification is not confirmed by the defense department.

SANTORUM: I’d like to know who that is. The fact of the matter is, I’ll wait and see what the actual Defense Department formally says or more important what the administration formally says.

does not become you. :blush: then :hurts:see what I mean?

i guess rumsfeld didn't get to 'em in time?

already dismissed them.



......Today, Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) and Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI) held a press conference and announced “we have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.” Santorum and Hoekstra are hyping a document that describes degraded, pre-1991 munitions that were already acknowledged by the White House’s Iraq Survey Group and dismissed.

Fox News’ Jim Angle contacted the Defense Department who quickly disavowed Santorum and Hoekstra’s claims. A Defense Department official told Angle flatly that the munitions hyped by Santorum and Hoekstra are “not the WMD’s for which this country went to war.”

that he had an active program. The wmd discussed here are old, rusty and degraded.

it on his show also.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1479990

"categorically UNtrue' says Santorium--that SH had no wmd. He came on like a cooky crook--with NEW just UNclassied information. Said he asked for this 2 and half months ago! But just in the nick of time he had to when it came time for him to speak on the Iraqi resolution. In the second thread below, it says that Keith Olberman (Newsweek reporter) just debunked it.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1479277

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1479297&mesg_id=1479934

Wed Jun-21-06 07:29 PM
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20. here is Santorum's nice WMD try
The following are the six key points contained in the unclassified overview:

• Since 2003 Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent.

• Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq’s pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist.

• Pre-Gulf War Iraqi chemical weapons could be sold on the black market. Use of these weapons by terrorists or insurgent groups would have implications for Coalition forces in Iraq. The possibility of use outside Iraq cannot be ruled out.

• The most likely munitions remaining are sarin and mustard-filled projectiles.

• The purity of the agent inside the munitions depends on many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives, and environmental storage conditions. While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal.

• It has been reported in open press that insurgents and Iraqi groups desire to acquire and use chemical weapons.

http://santorum.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=...

in other words : NOTHING
.............
Wed Jun-21-06 08:27 PM
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22. Take note
Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions.

"This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991," the official said, adding the munitions "are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war."

Not surprising that this 'news' is being prsented by Faux at this time. Should help Bush's cause. Possibly weapons that were disposed off by UN requirement?

Wed Jun-21-06 08:25 PM
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18. gawd, look at what Hoekstra said. what a duffus!



......."This says weapons have been discovered, more weapons exist and they state that Iraq was not a WMD-free zone, that there are continuing threats from the materials that are or may still be in Iraq," said Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

The weapons are thought to be manufactured before 1991 so they would not be proof of an ongoing WMD program in the 1990s. But they do show that Saddam Hussein was lying when he said all weapons had been destroyed, and it shows that years of on-again, off-again weapons inspections did not uncover these munitions.

Hoekstra said the report, completed in April but only declassified now, shows that "there is still a lot about Iraq that we don't fully understand."

Asked why the Bush administration, if it had known about the information since April or earlier, didn't advertise it, Hoekstra conjectured that the president has been forward-looking and concentrating on the development of a secure government in Iraq.



Wed Jun-21-06 08:10 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2349639&mesg_id=2349639
Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq (Faux)
WASHINGTON — The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.

"We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.

Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html


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Wed Jun-21-06 08:23 PM
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HIstorical revionists at Fox News claim WMDs found in Iraq, facts disagree
Fox is trying to pump a bogus story about 500 chemical warheads found in Iraq, as a "bombshell development". In reality, the U.N. knew about these weapons, the Iraqi survey group listed them as useless munitions because they predated the first Gulf War and had degraded beyond the capacity for use, i.e. the chemicals were no longer able to kill anyone, or in the very least, kill anyone outside of a 100 foot radius (roughly the radius of a standard MISSILE BLAST). That's why the Bush administration hasn't bothered trying to highlight them in the last few years, because he would get laughed at. People aren't stupid. The weapons inspectors knew about these things and they didn't bother asking Saddam to do anything about them because they were already useless.

Now the right-wing fanatics at Fox News are trying to pump this propaganda as Bush being right all along. They're seriously despicable.

;-)

so called discovery of proof that wmd existed! Like it was news! said had just been declassifed--but had asked for it 2 and half months ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1482002&mesg_id=1482002

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060622/ts_afp/uscongressiraqweaponschemical_060622055545;_ylt=AsNd0bSHRRXi3KVRfACz.6ys0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

Hundreds of chemical weapons found in Iraq: US intelligence
by Charlotte Raab 23 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US-led coalition forces in
Iraq have found some 500 chemical weapons since the March 2003 invasion, Republican lawmakers said, citing an intelligence report.

"Since 2003, Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent," said an overview of the report unveiled by Senator Rick Santorum and Peter Hoekstra, head of the intelligence committee of the House of Representatives.

"Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf war chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf war chemical munitions are assessed to still exist," it says.

The lawmakers cited the report as validation of the US rationale for the war, and stressed the ongoing danger they pose.

"This is an incredibly -- in my mind -- significant finding. The idea that, as my colleagues have repeatedly said in this debate on the other side of the aisle, that there are no weapons of mass destruction, is in fact false," Santorum said.

:eyes:

Santorum says it. Faux has orgasms and announces it and talks about it all of the doo-dah day. The story gets completely discredited. Then Faux just. stops. talking. about. it. No retraction. No followup story that it has been discredited. No announcement if even the prezlebum says it's not true. Just. Nothing. Story gone. Poof.

Then the spinmeisters, the Hannitys, the Oreillys, the Limbaughs will refer to the original story every now and then.

And the gullibles will walk away KNOWING it is true and that the left-leaning media JUST. WON'T. COVER. IT.

so - 2+ years after invading "we" suddenly find the WMDs?

this contradicts previous lies/spin: http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/15543.html