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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:28 AM
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Report says humans mostly responsible for global warming
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 10:57 AM by SharonRB
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:31 AM
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1. Hell they are using old-fasioned fact-based science
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 10:35 AM by SpiralHawk
So this can't be true.

They should just shut up and sit down, so we call all Assume the Position and listen to BushCo's Armageddon All-Star Faith-Based Science Propagandists...

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:53 AM
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6. Facts have a well-known liberal bias!
:P
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:32 AM
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2. More liberal propaganda
Don't be passing on all this factual shit. Tune in to limbaugh and get with the program.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:39 AM
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3. So, think THIS will get anyone's attention?
I mean anyone on the other side of the aisle, of course... they're pretty much the only ones still clinging desperately to all the oil companies'/their leaders' lies, aren't they?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:41 AM
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4. GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT IN THE BIBLE!
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 10:42 AM by kenny blankenship
(so what are you even talking about?)
Please do not bother us with this lieberal propaganda anymore. God gave us the oil and the coal, which are not from dinosaurs living millions of years ago, but exist because He wanted us to have SUVs and airconditioning, and we have dominion over them in perpetuity. We can burn oil and coal as much as we like. In the next world it won't matter what temperature this one is at.
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doubleplusgood Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 08:20 AM
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44. sure it is
Don't you know ? Global warming IS real and it's caused by the ever-increasing Hellfire and Damnation, caused by gays, pre-marital sex, abortion, etc.

Oh, and flag-burning is also a major contributor to global warming, too, hence the immediate need for a constitutional amendment against it. :sarcasm:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:42 AM
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5. ya think???
:eyes: what a non-story (no offense to the op)
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:58 AM
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10. None taken
We know it's a non-story, but maybe Congress will have to listen now.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:53 AM
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7. We knew this, but now a REPORT REQUESTED BY CONGRESS makes this OFFICIAL.
That will make a lot of difference in political. Logic says it shouldn't. Politics says it will.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:55 AM
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8. SharonRB
Instead of locking this thread... could you please note this rule:

Whenever possible, post excerpts and links from reputable mainstream news sources that are available online. Do not link to blogs, vanity sites, or blatantly biased sources, except in cases where reputable mainstream sources are not available. Please make an effort to link directly to the original source of an article, instead of linking to sites that have re-published someone else's content, or re-packaged someone else's content as their own. The moderators have the authority to decide which websites are appropriate for posting in the Latest Breaking News forum and which are not.

rawstory has repackaged this story. Could you link to the original source.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_sc/global_warming

Thanks
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:57 AM
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9. Sure -- I didn't realize linking to RawStory was a problem
I've updated my original to just contain a link to the Yahoo story, which I didn't know about when I posted.

Sorry!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:07 AM
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12. no problem if it is original
reporting.
:thumbsup:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:10 AM
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16. Okay -- I'll remember that for next time.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:59 AM
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11. And here I thought is was livestock....
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:28 PM
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41. Well at least you've learned something today then! (N/T)
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:09 AM
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13. Earth warmest in at least 400 years, panel finds
WASHINGTON - Weighing in on the highest profile debate about global warming, the nation's premier science policy body on Thursday voiced a "high level of confidence" that Earth is the hottest it has been in at least 400 years, possibly even longer.

A panel convened by the National Research Council reached that conclusion in a broad review of scientific studies, reporting that the evidence indicates “recent warmth is unprecedented for at least the last 400 years.”

The panel of top climate scientists told lawmakers that the Earth is running a fever and that “human activities are responsible for much of the recent warming.” Their 155-page report said average global surface temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere rose about 1 degree during the 20th century.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13474997/

Man, we gotta do something.....
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:09 AM
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14. It is somewhat encouraging to at least see the debate shift
from denial to acceptance, it's a start.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:09 AM
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15. Lest we forget what prompted this new study...
From July, 2005:

"In today's partisan political climate, science has inevitably become a political football. But I can't remember anything quite as nasty -- or as politically skewed -- as Rep. Joe Barton's recent attack on scientists whose views on global warming he doesn't like.

Barton, an 11-term Republican from Texas, is chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and one of the oil lobby's best friends on Capitol Hill. Late last month he fired off letters to professor Michael Mann of the University of Virginia and two other scientists demanding information about what he claimed were "methodological flaws and data errors" in their studies of global warming.

Barton's letters to the scientists had a peremptory, when-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife tone. Mann was told that within less than three weeks, he must list "all financial support you have received related to your research," provide "the location of all data archives relating to each published study for which you were an author," "provide all agreements relating to . . . underlying grants or funding," and deliver similarly detailed information in five other categories.

The scientists' offense was that they had authored a controversial study that reported a sharp rise in global temperatures during the 20th century, based on an analysis of tree rings, glacial ice and coral layers.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/21/AR2005072102186.html
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Lefty-Taylor Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:18 AM
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17. This is in no way conclusive. We must study global warming more before
we go jumping to any liberal-based conclusions. WE MUST STUDY MORE. FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
Sincerely,
ExxonMobilShellTexaco.
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MagniCynic Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 11:23 AM
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18. Well the Earth is slowly drifting closer towards the Sun
That must explain it.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 12:04 PM
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19. In Alaska we have suffered the third coldest wettest spring in
sixty years. They are blaming it on La Nina but it is very unpleasant after the last several really nice warm springs. :shrug: Our major glacier though The Mendenhall Glacier is receding by over three hundred feet a year. Two years ago it lost over six hundred feet.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:34 PM
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20. CNN says 2000 years on its front page.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:15 PM
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21. Scientists know nothing about science, politicians do! How do I
know? Senator Inhofe told me when he said that global warming is "the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind". :eyes: http://inhofe.senate.gov/pressreleases/climateupdate.htm

With people like Ihofe in the world, I fear for my daughters future.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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22. Earth's temp may be at 2,000-year high
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 03:01 PM by deadparrot
WASHINGTON - It has been 2,000 years and possibly much longer since the Earth has run such a fever. The National Academy of Sciences, reaching that conclusion in a broad review of scientific work requested by Congress, reported Thursday that the "recent warmth is unprecedented for at least the last 400 years and potentially the last several millennia."

A panel of top climate scientists told lawmakers that the Earth is heating up and that "human activities are responsible for much of the recent warming." Their 155-page report said average global surface temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere rose about 1 degree during the 20th century.

This is shown in boreholes, retreating glaciers and other evidence found in nature, said Gerald North, a geosciences professor at Texas A&M University who chaired the academy's panel.

The report was requested in November by the chairman of the House Science Committee, Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (news, bio, voting record), R-N.Y., to address naysayers who question whether global warming is a major threat.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_sc/global_warming
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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23. Its a democratic legend
Nothing to see Move along

</sarcasm>
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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25. Noooooooo,Nooooooooooo
Blame it on Clinton's BJ
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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28. That's better
Blame it on Monika's thong, which when snapped changed the rotation of the earth
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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30. Serious
Seismic activity
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 03:06 AM
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43. Also a possibility
All those volcanoes can't be good. With all the CO2 they release.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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24. I KNEW this........
I moved to Denver 7 years ago because all records said it was temperate......well so much for history

quote.......
Climate scientists say this month's shockingly early heat wave may provide a glimpse into Denver's future.
The temperature at Denver International Airport reached or surpassed 90 degrees on 12 of the first 14 days in June, according to the National Weather Service.

The hot spell included seven straight days of 90-or-higher temperatures, marking the earliest such streak since recordkeeping began in 1872. The mercury hit 102 last Wednesday, a record for the date and the earliest triple-digit temperature ever for Denver.

"My perception is that I've never seen it this hot at this time of year," said assistant state climatologist Nolan Doesken.

"It's not ridiculously uncommon for late June to early July, but it is very unusual at the beginning of June," said Doesken, who will take over as state climatologist on July 1.

snip....
Some changes in Denver temperatures are already apparent, said University of Colorado climatologist Klaus Wolter. But it's unclear if human activities, such as the burning of fossil fuels, are to blame, he said.

Springs and summers have warmed in Denver over the past decade, with the biggest temperature increases in March and July, Wolter said.

Eight of the past 10 Denver springs (defined by climatologists as the months of March, April and May) and nine of the past 10 Julys were warmer than the long-term average at the former Stapleton International Airport in Denver, Wolter said.


end quote.....

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4784724,00.html
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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26. I'm rooting for the Earth!
Go planet!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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27. You know whats really wierd
is down here in Houston which is usually in the high 90's and 100's
its not that high where other places are... Its like because of this warming the planet is heating up in areas which were KNOWN to be temperate... WAKE UP PEOPLE this is going to have ramifications!!!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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29. I think we may all be dead already
it's just going to take a couple more decades for us all to lay down.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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31. Chicago 1995
Question: How many people died as a result of the heat wave?

Klinenberg: In 1995 there were no uniform standards for determining a "heat related death," so officials had to develop them. Edmund Donoghue, Cook County's chief medical examiner, used state-of-the-art criteria to report 465 heat-related deaths for the heat wave week and 521 heat deaths for the month of July. But Mayor Richard M. Daley challenged these findings. "It's hot," the mayor told the media. "But let's not blow it out of proportion. . . . Every day people die of natural causes. You cannot claim that everybody who has died in the last eight or nine days dies of heat. Then everybody in the summer that dies will die of heat."
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/443213in.html

Somepeople can take the heat..I never could. I feel sick when the temperature hits 85
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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32. in some places the number of days in the high 80s (or more) could triple
Even in the Pacific Northwest (where a lot of the older homes don't have air conditioning) the number of hot days could go from 3-4 to more than a dozen per year. In southern Ontario, where I'm from, we have heat waves that last for a week or more ... but in the future, we could be looking at more than a month of that kind of thing. (I know what you mean about feeling ill when it gets too hot ... one reason why I moved. And one of my co-workers has migraines which are triggered by high temperatures -- he turned down a lucrative job offer in Montreal because of that.)

There is actually a form of depression which is linked with hot, humid weather. While the winter type of Seasonal Affective Disorder is pretty well understood now (brought on by shorter day length during the winter), there is also a summer form which is not as widespread, but likely would be worsened by higher summer temperatures. And of course, the people who couldn't afford to go on holiday to cooler places, or have air conditioning, would be stuck with it.

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:05 PM
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38. I think the Northwest is being hit by La Nina so actually cooler than norm
An earlier poster from Alaska said it was cooler there anyway. I sure don't understand it..
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:10 PM
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33. It was 99°F in Atlanta Yesterday, June 21st. Atlanta is at 1060ft...
...above Sea Level. That is way too hot for Atlanta in June!
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:17 PM
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34. I lived in Atlanta
from '87 to '97 and saw the heat go up every year...now I'm seeing it in Denver...WHERE is my next stop....I need to live in 70 degree most of the year. I would take 30 degrees OVER 90 degrees any day....any affordable re-location recommendations?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:35 PM
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36. Vancouver, Canada is sounding better and better to me everyday.
I'm not sure how high they are above Sea Level or what the winters are like, but I bet they are getting warmer every year.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:02 PM
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37. That's just what I DON'T want
I want a place that is getting colder. VC would never take me..I'm too old!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:14 PM
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39. well, Vancouver is on the coast ... see this flooding projection map
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:18 PM
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35. As An Inconvenient Truth says..
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 04:19 PM by mvd
ANY reputable source says the same thing. While the mainstream press lags far behind.
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outofbounds Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:24 PM
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40. Reading this 22 days into Hurricane
season. One tropical storm has already passed overhead. Now the Jacksonville, Fl. weather man says the storm right off the coast is showing signs of circulation and will be moving this way in a few days. That would be 2 in June. Its getting an early start.
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Reckon Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 12:39 AM
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42. Oil and electricity consumption across the world could easily be
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 12:40 AM by Reckon
cut by half if clean technology applied: IEA

"Oil and electricity consumption across the world could easily be cut by half, with major benefits for the environment, if clean energy technologies that are currently available were applied, an international watchdog said.

"A sustainable energy future is possible, but only if we act urgently and decisively to promote, develop and deploy a full mix of energy technologies... We have the means, now we need the will," said Claude Mandil, executive director of the International Energy Agency (IEA).

He was presenting an IEA report written in response to a call last year from G8 leaders who asked the agency to develop and advise on alternative scenarios and strategies for a clean, clever and competitive energy future."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/ieag8energytechnology;_ylt=As9OkoPCGDLFUvIbjixKsEYDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhcmljNmVhBHNlYwNtcm5ld3M-


That's just smart! Anyone should be able to see that!

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defiant1 Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:32 PM
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45. No kidding....
And here I am thinking that it was the chipmunks.

d1
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