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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:31 PM
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Democratic Panel Limits New Primary States
Democratic Panel Limits New Primary States


Thursday June 22, 2006 8:16 PM

By HOLLY RAMER

Associated Press Writer

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) - A Democratic National Committee panel considering changes
to the presidential primary calendar voted Thursday to allow just two other states
to join Iowa and New Hampshire in voting early in 2008.

If the full DNC adopts the recommendation, one state would be allowed to hold a
caucus between Iowa's caucus and the New Hampshire primary, and a second would hold
a primary shortly after the New Hampshire contest.

Supporters said limiting the new states to two instead of the four some had proposed
would accomplish the goal of increasing racial and ethnic diversity without front-
loading the calendar or diminishing the traditional roles of Iowa and New Hampshire.
Both states have been criticized as unrepresentative of the country given their size
and nearly all-white populations.
<snip>
Ten states plus the District of Columbia have applied to fill the two slots: Alabama,
Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Hawaii, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, South Carolina and
West Virginia.

The committee will meet next month to select the two states.
<snip>

Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5904953,00.html
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:42 PM
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1. As long as my state's (Oregon) primary is in May, I'll just be
rubberstamping whoever was the winner in the earlier states.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 03:13 PM
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2. I feel your pain.
New York is almost as bad. I would have put my foot down and declared a one day 50-state primary. If you can't run a campaign like that, you shouldn't be running for President.

Under my plan, 2/3 of the delegates would be chosen on the one day nationwide primary. The other 1/3 would consist of the usual party aparatchiks. This way, you'd have to win enough delegates to cancel out the remaining third. If you achieve that, terrific. You just received the support of a large majority of your party, and you deserve the nomination. If not, well, you then get to convince enough of the party's delegates to swing your way, and the convention just became VERY interesting - Must See TV.

Anyone who is mathematically eliminated on primary day must immediately release his or her delegates to vote as they see fit on the first ballot. Their campaigns are defunct from that time.

These rules would force the party to come up with a workable plan at the convention, rather than give a potentially weak candidate undeserved "momentum" in Iowa and New Hampshire. It would also force candidates to run nationwide from the get-go. We cannot afford any more regional "red vs. blue" campaigns.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 03:19 PM
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3. Why 1/3 to the party?
Also how can a non big pockets campaign possibly get started with a 50 state barrier? How about the DP take the lead and pick their candidate on a 50 state popular vote instant runoff basis?
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 03:20 PM
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4. The "Party Honchos" have got to keep a firm grip ...
On the primaries, 'cuz they've got to CONTROL the nominating process.
Can't have any "free thinkers" elected, doncha know.

Independent operators won't follow the corporate agenda.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 03:56 PM
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5. I think our primaries
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 03:57 PM by BayCityProgressive
are a part of the reason why some of our candidates are so bad and take shitty positions on issues. I think every state should vote the same day in the primary so people in 2-4 states aren't pandered to while other issues are ignored.

**edit- I find that having one state vote at a time creates a herd mentality and people drop the person they support to vote for the winner of the first caucus. This is wrong and it makes it easy for party elites to rig.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:32 PM
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9. I agree with your edit point completely
It's deterring to true democracy, that herd mentality.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:14 PM
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7. exactly; i hope and pray that dissident democrats will sieze this primary
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:08 PM
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6. New Hampshire and Iowa should be cancelled for one cycle
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 04:09 PM by rabid_nerd
or pushed into September.

.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:31 PM
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8. West Virginia and Arkansas.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:45 PM
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10. Alabama baby!!!
For no other reason than I'd like my primary vote to mean something for once.

:D

Our June primary makes our votes meaningless. It is over and done by then.

I hate the primaries and the way that a few states get to decide for the rest of us. Just do them all in a two week period and get it over with.

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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 07:38 PM
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11. It better be HAWAI'I...
A real democratic state with real progressives needs to be heard!!!
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