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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:46 AM
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Rumsfeld Says U.S. Won't Set Iraq Exit as AP Cites Sunni Offer

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=at3UtMyC34Gs&refer=worldwide_news

Rumsfeld Says U.S. Won't Set Iraq Exit as AP Cites Sunni Offer

June 28 (Bloomberg) -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, asked about a report that Sunni insurgents have made a conditional offer to halt attacks in Iraq, said the U.S. won't set a timetable for withdrawing troops from the country.

The Associated Press today said 11 Sunni insurgent groups offered to stop attacks on U.S.-led military forces in Iraq if the Iraqi government and President George W. Bush set a two-year deadline for withdrawing all foreign troops.

Rumsfeld told reporters that while he hadn't seen the report, ``the president's view has been and remains that a timetable is not something that is useful.'' A schedule for a pullout ``is a signal to the enemies that all you have to do is just wait and it's yours,'' he said.

``The goal is not to trade something off for something else to make somebody happy, the goal is to succeed,'' Rumsfeld said at a Pentagon press conference with Australian Defense Minister Brendan Nelson. ``And that means exactly what the president has said: It's condition-based.''



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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:55 AM
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1. Like every last one of us knows, they don't intend to ever leave.
In fact, in their minds there's a lot more countries that need occupyin'
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:10 AM
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2. this is enough to make me
:puke:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:19 AM
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3. Oh, no doubt "to succeed" is "condition-based"
Bush defines the condition by which he'll define success.

Which just means Bush could declare victory and withdraw troops at any time..or he could decide to increase troop levels...as the condition by which to succeed....or he could decide ..anything at all...since he defines the terms as he goes. He's been given an open-ended sentence of opportunity...so he is the one that creates/defines how the sentence ends.....

Reality gets to be whatever he declares it to be....

Oh, sure, people can beat their chest in outrage and print fact after fact disputing Bush's reality...but bottomline...it's still Bush defining the terms.

and as long as he's allowed to define those terms..."success in Iraq" means whatever he claims it means...

Congress could demand an actual answer from Bush...but Congress would then have to be willing to hold Bush accountable....to back up their demands.













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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:23 AM
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4. we are not part of the solution, we are the problem
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:44 AM
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5. I heard him say yesterday with a time line, the insurgents would
wait and then take over the country. Well, guess what Rumsfield, it is their country. Isn't that the goal to have the Shites, Kurds and Sunni's take over their country? I love how they are blurring the lines here, making it appear that the "Sunni insurgents" are no different that the Al Quada (sp)groups.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:00 AM
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6. I suspect the current policy is to start a drawdown on a secret timetable
The goal is to withdraw to the four main bases around Baghdad, then maintain a background presence. US patrols will be replaced by Iraqi patrols. US forces will assume a force protection posture. In the last year, we have seen a number of provinces handed over to Iraqi forces (of various stripes).

It will get more interesting when the first act of Iraq's Parliament is to demand a timetable for US withdrawal.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:34 AM
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7. Someone (just one for a start) should ask that liar Herr Rumsfeld
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 10:38 AM by Amonester
what he means by "succeed" and see if his definition makes any sense at all (even if we know from experience anything that 'Nixonian' war criminal spouts has never made any sense at all).


Edit: I'm so mad that I can't spell.
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