BBC News: New Osama Bin Laden Tape posted on the Internet-- Text here

link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4628932.stm

them to get you."

expects any rebuttal...

HEY REPUG CONGRESS WHEN YOU ARE DONE ATTACKING FELLOW AMERICANS RIGHTS MAYBE YOU CAN GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GO KILL FUCKING OBL...A NOVEL IDEA ISN'T IT!!

REMEBER * DOESN'T THINK ABOUT OBL!!!

Then maybe we can bring our soldiers home alive instead of body bags...

OBL serves him far better alive than caught/dead. * can continue to instill fear in everyone thus controlling everyone. How much longer will people fail to see * for what he is?

bin Laden is definitely the Boogeyman-slash-Poster Child of this mess, but he's too plugged in to the network of Pakistanis (and others) who will lie about his last whereabouts. They'll take the money for giving the tip, but it's always a bad tip. If he was there, he was there a week ago.

So Bush needed a new Boogeyman who wasn't so well connected. Lo and behold, Al-Zarqawi. That was working out pretty well until one of his stooges had to help him fire his gun. Bush and Co. LIKED that...they could poke fun at him and ratchet up the "he can run but he can't hide" rhetoric.

Then one of his comrades turned him in. We got to plaster the dead Al-Zarqawi photos all over the place but people...kept...DYING.

So now Osama slips back into his role as Monty Python's French Taunter, farting in Bush's general direction, calling him a butcher, which will result in Bush saying that Osama can run but he cannot hide, and then there'll be a new Boogeyman, and Bush will forget about Osama again.

Lather, rinse, repeat.



U.S. President George W. Bush (2nd L) and Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi (2nd R) thank violinist Shoji Tabuchi (L) and guitarist Brian Setzer (R) for performing during a dinner at the White House in Washington June 29, 2006. REUTERS/Mike Theiler (UNITED STATES)

Read it carefully! I doesn't sound link Osama to me at all!!!!

I don't mean to impune the UK news, but it just doesn't sound right to me.

from a cave?

the way things are stated that just don't sound right to me. I don't think it's interpretation either, it's the whole story. I don't think this is from Osama at all!

his dialysis? :shrug:

:rofl:

Me thinks that thou protest to much (or however the hell that saying goes)

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/24-318760.html

Did the U.S. "Create" Osama bin Laden?
Allegations that the U.S. provided funding for bin Laden proved inaccurate


The United States did not "create" Osama bin Laden or al Qaeda. The United States supported the Afghans fighting for their country's freedom -- as did other countries, including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China, Egypt, and the UK -- but the United States did not support the "Afghan Arabs," the Arabs and other Muslims who came to fight in Afghanistan for broader goals. CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen notes that the "Afghan Arabs functioned independently and had their own sources of funding." He notes:

"While the charges that the CIA was responsible for the rise of the Afghan Arabs might make good copy, they don't make good history. The truth is more complicated, tinged with varying shades of gray. The United States wanted to be able to deny that the CIA was funding the Afghan war, so its support was funneled through Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence agency (ISI). ISI in turn made the decisions about which Afghan factions to arm and train, tending to favor the most Islamist and pro-Pakistan. The Afghan Arabs generally fought alongside those factions, which is how the charge arose that they were creatures of the CIA.

Former CIA official Milt Bearden, who ran the Agency's Afghan operation in the late 1980s, says, "The CIA did not recruit Arabs," as there was no need to do so. There were hundreds of thousands of Afghans all too willing to fight, and the Arabs who did come for jihad were "very disruptive . . . the Afghans thought they were a pain in the ass." Similar sentiments from Afghans who appreciated the money that flowed from the Gulf but did not appreciate the Arabs' holier-than-thou attempts to convert them to their ultra-purist version of Islam. Freelance cameraman Peter Jouvenal recalls: "There was no love lost between the Afghans and the Arabs. One Afghan told me, ‘Whenever we had a problem with one of them we just shot them. They thought they were kings.'"

... There was simply no point in the CIA and the Afghan Arabs being in contact with each other. ... the Afghan Arabs functioned independently and had their own sources of funding. The CIA did not need the Afghan Arabs, and the Afghan Arabs did not need the CIA. So the notion that the Agency funded and trained the Afghan Arabs is, at best, misleading. The 'let's blame everything bad that happens on the CIA' school of thought vastly overestimates the Agency's powers, both for good and ill."

more...

If it is determined that this adminstration put this tape together...can they be tried for treason? Seriously....can we?

In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "......citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the ."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

I'm no lawyer, but deliberately lying to the public to incent support for war is some offense, just not treason.

sigh....

:wtf: Wouldn't death be a good thing for him if he dies while conducting Jihad?

With all this time away in a cozy cave, I'll be reading too. And what the hell... didn't he attacked us because of us being infidels? and now he is asking for a cease fire and live in harmony with infidels? He is supposed to kill all non believers, isn't that what the Koran asks (his interpretation of the Koran of course)?

He's studied up on US politics.

snip>
We do not object to a long-term truce with you on the basis of fair conditions that we respect.

We are a nation, for which God has disallowed treachery and lying.

In this truce, both parties will enjoy security and stability and we will build Iraq and Afghanistan, which were destroyed by the war.

There is no defect in this solution other than preventing the flow of hundreds of billions to the influential people and war merchants in America, who supported Bush's election campaign with billions of dollars.
...
First, I will extend my apologies to the widows, orphans, and the persons who were tortured. Afterwards, I will announce that the US interference in the world's countries has ended for ever.

supportive of Bush sites. Then again, parts like this make it sound like he's talking to the Freepers:

This news indicates that what is carried by the news media does not exceed what is actually taking place on the ground. What increases doubts on the information of the White House's administration is its targeting of the news media, which carry some facts about the real situation.

a few years old already? Something fishy here.

I'll have to see if I can get some info...but it sounds like ol' Karl screwed up and got out an old tape!

He is probably living in comfort in the Bahamas, and only comes out whenever Bush needs to frighten or distract us.

OBL calls Bush "the butcher of freedom in the world." Chavez calls Bush "Mister Danger." Many of us call Bush "another Hitler."

hotel. The Howard Hughes suite would be my guess. :shrug:

"If Bush declines but to continue lying and practicing injustice , it is useful for you to read the book of "The Rogue State", the introduction of which reads: If I were a president, I would halt the operations against the United States."

I don't know if the author will be thrilled by the endorsement, but the book is very informative.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/20/AR2006012001971.html

The Author Who Got A Big Boost From bin Laden
Historian 'Glad' of Mention As Sales of Book Skyrocket

By David Montgomery
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, January 21, 2006; Page C01

Twenty-four hours after Osama bin Laden told the world that the American people should read the work of a little-known Washington historian, William Blum was still adjusting.

Blum, who at 72 is accustomed to laboring in relative left-wing obscurity, checked his emotions and pronounced himself shocked and, well, pleased.

"This is almost as good as being an Oprah book," he said yesterday between telephone calls from the world media and bites of a bagel. "I'm glad." Overnight, his 2000 work, "Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower," had become an Osama book.

Try this one: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5131818.stm

sounds like an American.

Now they have two dead boogeymen.

Maybe the reason this story doesn't sound right is because Osama has been dead since December 2001.

Those mofos squatting in OUR house are really cranking it up for November.

It looks like an old transcript to me.

from January. I apologize. MSNBC was stating 'latest news' about a new OBL video, and that is what came up. I should have looked at the link more closely. Again, I apologize, and thank you for the corrected BBC link... :blush:

Not latest breaking news.