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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:30 AM
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4 Americans kidnapped in southern Iraq
Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 07:47 AM by leftchick
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061228/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_kidnapped_americans

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. Embassy said Thursday it believes four American security contractors and an Austrian remain in captivity after their kidnapping in southern Iraq six weeks ago.

The men went missing Nov. 16 when a large convoy of trucks being escorted by their Crescent Security Group was hijacked on a highway near Safwan, a city on the border with Kuwait.

Suspected militiamen dressed in Iraqi police uniforms ambushed the convoy, taking 14 hostages, including the five security guards, and nine truck drivers who were later released.

"At this time, U.S. officials believe the American citizens are still being held by their captors," said Lou Fintor, a spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

<snip>

A video of the kidnapped Americans reportedly surfaced this week, showing them alive and in good condition. The footage, reported by McClatchy Newspapers, was believed to have been made about a month ago. If authentic, it would be the first proof that all five men survived the ambush.


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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:36 AM
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1. Laura says the news is not focusing
on the good things in Iraq. So maybe we were focusing on the "good things" for Pickles' satisfaction, and we just had to delay reporting a couple of "minor incidents."
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:39 AM
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2. Related: Abducted contractors appear in videotape - McClatchy
The International Herald Tribune posted the same AP story with a more useful headline:
U.S. Embassy says Americans kidnapped in southern Iraq remain in captivity

Posted on Wed, Dec. 27, 2006

Abducted contractors appear in videotape
By Hannah Allam
McClatchy Newspapers

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Four American security contractors and an Austrian co-worker
who were kidnapped in southern Iraq six weeks ago appear to be in good physical
condition in a videotape that was shot two weeks after they were taken captive.

The footage, which hasn't been made public, is the first proof that all five men
survived their abduction Nov. 16 in an ambush in the town of Safwan. The clip
was shown to McClatchy Newspapers in Baghdad on Tuesday night on condition
that the provider's name and other identifying details be withheld for security
reasons.

The provider said the video was shot in response to a demand for proof that the
men were alive before negotiations for their release could begin. The provider was
confident that the men are still living and remain in the hands of a little-known
Shiite Muslim militant group that calls itself the "Mujahedeen of Jerusalem Company."

Representatives of the U.S. military, the American Embassy and the men's employer,
the Kuwait-based Crescent Security Group, said they hadn't known of the video and
called it the first significant development since the kidnapping.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/16330205.htm
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:49 AM
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6. thank you
that headline threw me. I added the pertinent information from the yahoo article.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:40 AM
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3. Did he issue this proclamation six weeks ago?
We strongly condemn the kidnapping and call on the hostage-takers to release these people immediately," Fintor said.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:44 AM
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4. Sounds like it would still not have been reported
Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 07:47 AM by hippywife
had a video not been released this week to McClatchy Newspapers. Americans get upset when Americans are killed but they get sit-on-the-edge-of-your-seat emotionally involved when it comes to kidnappings.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 12:58 PM
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11. The kidnappings were widely reported when they occurred.
These weren't soldiers, however, and all the usual characters were mum on the issue. The assumption was that some gang did it; it's probably still the base assumption, whatever they're calling themselves.

More honor getting money defending the pride and dignity of all Muslims, supporting the struggle to retake Jerusalem, and fighting against Americans qua Crusaders than saying "we kidnapped these people because they were foreigners so we could get money." From lowly kidnappers and thugs to defenders of Islam and the Ummah ... and they still get the money. :-)
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:45 AM
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5. What I want to know is how you can
tell the difference between "Suspected militiamen dressed in Iraqi police uniforms" and Iraqi police.

I guess if they shoot at you, kidnap you, or try to blow you up -- they're militia.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 08:08 AM
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7. American security contractors? Isn't that another way of
saying mercenaries?

If that's what they are, then why is this a problem for America? It should be a problem for the company they work for and that's pretty much it.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 08:34 AM
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8. they sure look like mercs to me....
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 12:06 PM
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9. They're not contractors, they're mercenaries.....
I hate it when they change words.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 12:13 PM
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10. They are not "security contractors" -- they are "mercenaries" (just
like the Hessians in 1776).
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Shanbo Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:51 AM
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14. mercenaries
We get paid to take a risk, we are not mercenaries if we are under contract with a coalition force, to provide security.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 07:55 AM
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16. Interesting definition you have adopted ...
> we are not mercenaries if we are under contract with a coalition force

Doesn't this mean that the Hessians weren't mercenaries as they were under
contract with the authorities at the time (rather than the rebellious
colonials)? In fact, doesn't this mean that there can be no such thing
as mercenaries as they are, by definition, under contract with some force
or other and, again by definition, such a mixed force can be said to be
a coalition (albeit of regular and mercenaries)?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 03:09 PM
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17. Hi Shanbo!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 05:09 PM
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12. Nothing to see here--must be another climber missing somewhere!!!
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Shanbo Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:49 AM
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13. Glad
I'm glad they are still alive, I almost lost all hope. 2 weeks after I came home they was abducted, it was my team!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:04 AM
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15. Will we get accurate reporting when the 40,000 new targets arrive??
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