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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:08 PM
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Rice: History will rate Bush well
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 01:11 PM by Barrett808
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says history will remember President Bush's foreign policy favorably despite current troubles in Iraq, Iran, North Korea and the Middle East "History's judgment is rarely the same as today's headlines," she said Friday in an interview with The Associated Press.

Rice said she believed the world was more dangerous before Bush took office in January 2001 than it is now.

"Six years ago ... it wasn't a very nice world. Al-Qaida was preparing to attack the twin towers, Pakistan was allied with the Taliban, Afghanistan was the base from where al-Qaida was going to operate, the Israelis and Palestinians had given up," she said.

"The Palestinians had walked away from a chance for a Palestinian state, launched the second intifada; (Israel) elected Ariel Sharon who basically said there will never be a Palestinian state and there will be a greater Israel; the North Koreans were cheating on a deal that they had just signed; China and others were indifferent; Iran was cheating on the IAEA out of sight and

Saddam Hussein was shooting at our pilots in the no-fly zone and making a mockery of the oil-for-food program and corruption was running rampant in that program. That was the world. A worse world? I think so."




Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070609/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/rice_bush
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:15 PM
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1. American Realism
at it's finest.
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Paranoid Pessimist Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:59 PM
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66. She has to think that. If she's wrong, her legacy is up the proverbial
crap creek.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:17 PM
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2. Right alongside Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo
Who would have thought that Hitler's Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels would be reincarnated as a Black woman?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:18 PM
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4. The woman who couldn't anticipate that planes would be used as weapons
even though she had received multiple warnings about it is now making predictions about GWBs place in history? I'll take that with a big ol' grain of salt.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:26 AM
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59. How will history judge this twit for her failures?
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:19 PM
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5. Yeah...at making American Democracy look like a joke. n/t
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:19 PM
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6. Only in the Faux News History Books
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:19 PM
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7. Right and history will rate Rice as SUPERWOMAN
:grr:

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:20 PM
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8. Yeah, mockery is such a nasty thing.
Condi, more USA military and way more Iraqis have been killed in the occupation of Iraq than the 9/11 attacks. Many many more people hate this country because of what your mrbush has done and you think it is safer? You wrote the words in the wrong order and forgot one.

History will well rate bush. Poorly.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:20 PM
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9. HahaHAHAha. I want some of what she's smoking.
Redstone
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:22 PM
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11. Maybe she's eating those shoes.
What an idiot. This proves that smart people can be idiots. Let's call it the Rice Effect.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:29 PM
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13. Hard to believe that those people can be so persistently delusional. Must be something in
the water supply in DC.

Oh, wait, I'm sure they all drink some kind of chi-chi water from bottles. Hey, do you suppose it's RepubWater, with added vitamins and LSD?

Redstone
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:31 PM
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14. Souless bastards. Someone needs to remind them that King Tut
is not enjoying the treasure he was buried with. :shrug:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:22 PM
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10. a point by point refutation is possible, but unneccessary
Stanford, DO NOT make this woman a tenured professor in 2009.

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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:29 PM
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12. What would you have her say... We are evil and corrupt and we
have turned this country into a dictatorship? I think she's going to keep smiling and pretending everything is rosy.. She certainly doesn't want to end up in jail for her role. (she belongs there, but we can't expect her to incriminate herself)
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:43 PM
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17. How true. . .
whenever I read people chastising anyone in BushCo for painting a rosy picture, I'm reminded of an exchange Richard Wright wrote about in Black Boy, when a woman, grilling him for some minor job she wanted him to do (he was only 7 or so), asked him, "Do you steal?" Even at such an young age, Wright realized a guy would have to be a fool or a moron to answer that in the affirmative: "Yes, ma'am. I steals."
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:39 PM
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15. Could I least have some of whatever Rice's smoking
I think we could all use an escape frome *real* world while playing in the fantasy world. I guess frogs will be judged kindly as well.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:41 PM
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16. Those of us with Ph.D.s are familiar with the term

"Piled Higher and Deeper." Some of us can admit to a degree of that.
And some can't. Dr. Rice, your analysis smells mightily of bullshit.
:thumbsdown:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:30 AM
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61. Unfortunately some like the smell of bullshit
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:00 PM
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18. Spelling error ?
Should rate read hate ?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:01 PM
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19. she is worried about her own legacy
which is pretty much in the crapper
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:40 AM
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58. puff!!
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:28 AM
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60. exactly - she should have been smart enough to realize it when she
signed on with these felons
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:08 PM
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20. She must be smokin some sweet stuff!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:08 PM
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21. If there were a diagnosis of "Criminally Delusional," she'd be it.
:banghead: :puke:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:12 PM
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22. I hope his memory is erased from History
and people are forbidden to speak his name.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:19 PM
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23. 'love is blind'
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:35 PM
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24. You broke it and you cannot fix it. There is no way Bush will be rated
well in history. His Admin is now tied to Iraq. And will be forever.
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:43 PM
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25. Well, I was going to say something, but I'll just leave it at this....
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :silly: :dunce: :rofl:
:wtf: :wow: :banghead:
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:52 PM
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26. Breaking: Dr. Rice
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 02:52 PM by Turbineguy
discovers an alternate Universe where everything is reversed.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:59 PM
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27. " . . . rate Bush well"
as in a deep, dank, dark, depression from which one must labor hard to remove water or other liquids.
You know, like a septic tank.
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Avalon Sparks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 03:20 PM
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28. Condoleezza = NUTBALL
eom
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 03:28 PM
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29. Rice to the Hague.
Do not pass go. No shoe shopping. Straight to the Hague.

Lying delusional war criminal Rice: "history will judge". I surely hope that in addition to history, a panel of internal criminal court judges will also have a say.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 03:54 PM
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30. Read that: the world was 100% better 6 years ago
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 04:53 PM by libodem
and Bush will be an Historical Pariah. You must adjust what they say by putting in the opposite and you will come out nearer the truth.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:02 PM
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31. Bush will be rated at most as well as Nixon nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:50 PM
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51. You mean eventually nobody will admit to voting for him either?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:54 PM
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69. naaaahhhh
Nixon had redeeming qualities - just a few, but there

this guy? no historian other than a rw hack is going to make up one good thing about him, not one
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:07 PM
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32. i'm sick of the media covering up for her
they don't even incLude the whistLing sounds when she taLks.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:24 PM
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33. Anyone who is saying that at THIS point is either hopelessly delusional or irredeemably stupid.
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 04:24 PM by Elrond Hubbard
Or they're a sleazy liar. Or they could be all three, just like Kindasleazy Rice!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:41 PM
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34. I didn't know Rice was a comedian as well! (nt)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 04:53 PM
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35. Just another kindasleazy fantasy
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 05:11 PM
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36. This from a woman who decided that her career area of expertise...
would be a country that would cease to exist in less than a decade.

A soothsayer she ain't.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 05:39 PM
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37. I used to think that she was intelligent, if misguided
Boy was I wrong! I wonder if they know she's on drugs. What other explanation is there? Oh yeah, infatuation. Wait, I din't say that. Never mind.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 05:45 PM
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38. bullshit Condi..pure unadulterated bullshit!! eom
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 06:24 PM
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39. History will record that we invaded Iraq to lynch the dictator. I do not
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 06:26 PM by bluerum
see that as something to be proud of.

Saddam Hussein was a bastard. But he was incarcerated and should have been tried at the Hague. Instead he was turned over to a bunch of tin pan religious fundamentalist tyrants no better than himself. And the * jr. blessed his lynching. Yes - history will mark the invasion of Iraq and lynching of Saddam as a turning point in human civilization.

Condoleezza Rice is still towing the party line. Hey Condi, the parties over. You have been played by a drugstore cowboy with a tin badge and you can't bring yourself to admit it. You fool.
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nadine_mn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 06:26 PM
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40. Poor Condi
blinded by ambition? blinded by love? just blind?


Here is a Seeing Eye Dog to help Condi find her way

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 06:39 PM
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41. DId someone open a portal to Bizzaro World?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 06:49 PM
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42. It will be worse
Rice is correct that history's judgment is rarely the same as today's headlines. When all of this plays out and there are decades of unrest and instability in the mid-east history will not look upon Bush as a visionary but as a Messianic control freak who stubbornly continued on a path of wanton destruction.

IF anything good happens in Iraq from here on out, it won't be because of Bush. It will be because those with a better foreign policy were able to right the wrongs of Crusader Bunnypnats.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 07:17 PM
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43. "Al-Qaida was preparing to attack..."
And Rice and Bush didn't have a clue.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 07:21 PM
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44. Bullshit n/t
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:18 PM
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45. I don't whether to
:rofl: or :puke:
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:18 PM
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46. I don't whether to
:rofl: or :puke:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:19 PM
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47. '"...Six years ago ... it wasn't a very nice world.
Al-Qaida was preparing to attack the twin towers, Pakistan was allied with the Taliban, Afghanistan was the base from where al-Qaida was going to operate, the Israelis and Palestinians had given up," she said....'

And the change would be what??????

They did and you were warned
alliance still there
check! Afghasnistan only now the warlords have even more power & better weapons & poppy production is up
No change between Palestine & Israel in spite of that famous * 'roadmap! (funny no one ever mentions that roadmap anymore)



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Handsome Pete Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:00 PM
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48. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure he will!
A couple of years ago, I took a set American History classes. I was amazed at how hard my textbook came down on Reagan. They called him a "talking head who did little more than stand where he was told to stand, and read what he was told to read." The textbook went on to say that Reagan was never allowed to make a public appearance without his handlers, and that he was never, NEVER allowed to speak extemporaneously.

This was a college level textbook mind you.

I suspect that Bushes entry will be comprised of three little words... "Worst. President. Ever."

Condi is more full of shite than a North Carolina pig farm.

Just sayin'

This is Handsome Pete, and I will dance for nickels
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:16 PM
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49. So other than Hussein's death, what has changed?
Is Rice living on a parallel planet where things have changed?
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:48 PM
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50. Huh??! I knew that that bytch was a lying poseur but now I believe with all my
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 10:49 PM by Ecumenist
heart that she's a delusional, drunk, nutty meth addicted crackhead who's as batshyt crazy as a rabid outhouse rat....if she actually thinks tha anyone is going to buy one word of her crap.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:08 AM
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52. The (-)30% of bu$che-bot Faux propaganda brain-washed will.
The rest of the world just can't believe these nuts R for real.

The nightmare of imperial horrors continues...
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:15 AM
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53. That was a faux pas on the part of the Secretary of State.





What she should have said was ... history will berate Boosh well.



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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:20 AM
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54. Yes, Condi, he'll be known as the "No one could have forseen" president.
Go buy some shoes or something and stop trying to talk up the overflowing toilet that is our president.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 02:03 AM
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56. this a worthy DUzey post!
crack me UP... "no one could have foreseen" is one of his most beloved sayings because his coke rotted brain can't think of things that may occur, he lives in a delayed mental state (the pet goat book reading fiasco for example).


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:55 AM
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55. Alternative dimension history, that is. She forgot to add the qualifier. n/t
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 12:56 AM by susanna
on edit: I can't spell.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:21 AM
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57. "history will remember President Bush's foreign policy favorably?"
Well, then, I guess he had better hurry up and get one!
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:28 AM
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62. Yes, right up there with
Czar Nicholas II, Kaiser Wilhelm II. Bush II is like peas and carrots with those 2.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:43 PM
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63. What's the color of the sky in her world?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:45 PM
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64. Chris Matthews already rates him well. Now that academia is overrun with wingers
since Lynn cheney and Dave Horowitz started their campaign of terror 15 years ago, she might be right.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 08:55 PM
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65. only if he writes the history.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:17 PM
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67. Let's see - 6 years ago we had PEACE, HOPE, & PROSPERITY
not to mention a SURPLUS for the first time in a LONG time...

SOMEBODY needs to re-read the REALITY...

God how I miss the Clinton years...
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:49 PM
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68. She must think we are stupid.
Fuck her and the oil tanker she rode in on.
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