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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:11 AM Original message |
Sex Ed for Kindergarteners 'Right Thing to Do,' Says Obama |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ugh. I'd like to defend his dumbness, but I 'm too tired. nt. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. LOL. Sums it up nicely. Get some well-deserved rest. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Green, not dumb. |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Self delete |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
50. It's not dumb, Sister |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. "Kindergarteners need to learn about good and bad touch and respecting each others' personal space." |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
65. I agree with you. Mine were certainly taught all that at home, at least. nt |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
101. Like putting condoms on bananas. You are exactly right |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
130. how bloody obvious should that be?? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Since when is DU conservative about sex? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
96. In case you didn't know, Hillary's view of sex ed, sexual health and abortion (safe, legal |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. Uh.... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. Like, he's my first choice right now, but like... |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. He'll be attacked for it |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. No, it is not! |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. WRONG |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Read the blog entry... |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Uterus |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #67 |
83. Yikes...don't tell my six year old she is slow! |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #67 |
133. That's where "age appropriate" comes into play |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
90. I agree. Teaching that a fetus is growing in a "tummy" rather than a "uterus" is dishonest. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. And to be technically accurate, it should be penis and vulva, but some people |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. Dishonest? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Okay, but as long as we're clear that the very word "education" means to impart facts. |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:16 AM Response to Reply #104 |
118. How? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #118 |
125. Not hardcore stuff, just playboy or penthouse. Did nothing for me. |
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emmadoggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #43 |
73. Huh? Kindergarten kids are 4 to 5 years old? |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Apologies |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
116. Back in my day (early 1970s) you could start at four. |
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emmadoggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #116 |
127. I started kindy in the early 70's too. |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #127 |
131. No, I understand! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
97. See my post up thread about giving "too much" information to kids. |
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youngdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Someone needs to relax |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Well, damn... |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
85. Porn |
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youngdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I pity your experience |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Lenny Bruce |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
105. She'd rather you read Blueboy, I suppose:???? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
53. No it's not insane |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
121. What is insane or wrong about it? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
75. He's being honest; OMG! |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. It is bad strategy. |
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Unreconstructed Lib (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
4. Not only do k'garteners deserve honest answers to their sex questions... |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. i agree, and i think this is how Obama viewed it but it's tough to discuss |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. Good for him! |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
45. Amen! Fight back! |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. What is it you are supposed to tell kindergartners |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Don't let real life experience interfere here. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Well, bless your heart. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. My kids at that age were told that they grew from a seed in Mommy's tummy. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Yeah, I thought fast on that one. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
93. My son asked me about men marrying men and women marrying women when he was very young. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #93 |
122. That's how mine are, too. They've asked questions; they've |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Another good one we had here was |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
57. That's What My Mom Told Me |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
92. Oh, wow. |
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Big Pappa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Fast thinking |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Babies don't grow in mommy's tummy |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
108. Gee, thanks for the education. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 06:16 AM Response to Reply #108 |
117. Well a tummy encompasses more than the stomach |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
103. LMAO |
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LeighAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
132. Hear Hear! |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. ok, so what exactly is age appropriate for kindergartners? |
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cutlassmama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. it was 6th grade for me n/t |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Discussing their bodies without shame... |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
94. to me, that isn't even sex ed |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. See post #26 |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
12. Is he TRYING to make Hillary our next President? |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Yes. Or so say my conservative co-workers. |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Are you serious? |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
13. Is he TRYING to make Hillary our next President? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
16. He could survive the sex stuff, but they'll hate him for saying it should be science based. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
18. Argh.When will Dems learn to automatically REFRAME rightwingnuts' statements?? |
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Laughlandia (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Complete mischaracterization of the situation |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Indeed. The outcry from some here is amazing |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
88. My only disagreement w/ the Obamas is in even allowing the phrase to proceed w/o vigorous challenge |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:12 AM Response to Original message |
25. Considering the fact that many parents... |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. especially with the use of the internet these days |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. My wife has a coworker who's pregnant, and didn't know what a fetus was. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
55. I'm sure millions of women have had babies without |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
26. Bravo! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
44. so true -- teach children of all ages to own their bodies because it's the right/safe |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
66. Here's the Problem |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #66 |
84. See, there is the problem |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #84 |
107. Once the concepts of sexual act and the determining pattern for them enters the equation... |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. That's a stretch |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. It Is Intrinsically a Moral Issue |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. You are all over the place |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. They Are Not *Simple* Body Parts |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
36. Very bad moment... can already imagine the GOP attack ads |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Could it be something as simple as "Good touch, Bad touch"? |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Yeah. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
40. Deleted sub-thread |
Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
41. ABC NEWS is taking Obama's words out of context. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
42. Obama is totaly right. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
46. After everything the press has done, even people on DU still believe |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
48. well...you can scratch obama's name off the ballot. |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. The headline is wrong. Obama never said this. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. yes, he did. |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Then how come later in the article it says that Obama does NOT support it? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. do you know what the term "out of context" means? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Deleted message |
Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. If you're not going to answer the question, don't respond to my posts. |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Yes, for god's sake we don't need an intelligent candidate |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. pretty much. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
60. He's going to have a lot of 'splaining to do. I think |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
63. Of course they should get age appropriate information |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
64. It was an unwise statement, IMO. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
68. I thinks he's totally right...but it wont play well in Puritan America. |
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cmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
70. Retired kindergarten teacher here - Obama is right |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #70 |
86. Thank you! |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
71. So Obama supports teaching kindergarteners about inappropriate touching. Stan opposes that. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
72. Looks like a media hit piece |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
77. Obama's response to ABC News blog |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. That's kinda what I figured he meant... |
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rcdean (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
79. This works for him only if he follows up now to say... |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
81. Isn't Larry Flynt on a grammer school speaking tour right now? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
82. Well, I agree with Obama |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
91. As the daughter of a sex therapist, I'd have to say that Obama is |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
95. The headline is NOT in obamas favor and I am still NOT sure I want him |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
98. It would also empower children to speak out against abuse. |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
100. If children show curiosity honesty is best but other than that this is stupid. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
106. Bad phrasing. This will not do good things for him. |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
109. This is a smart move by him |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
111. Kids need to be aware of what is right and what is wrong |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
112. schools are supposed to teach reading, writing, & arithmetic. |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
115. Isn't this a key tool in protecting our children from sexual predation? |
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Okiegal123 (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
120. Children 4 years to 5 years of age and sex ed? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #120 |
123. You need to read some more - even through this thread |
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Okiegal123 (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. ... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Well, the trick is the same one we have with so much else |
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Okiegal123 (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. You are right... |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
124. Great idea Barack! |
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