Bush advisers favor current war strategy

Source: AP

Bush advisers favor current war strategy

By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer 50 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush's top two military and political advisers on Iraq will warn Congress on Monday that making any significant changes to the current war strategy will jeopardize the limited security and political progress made so far, The Associated Press has learned.

U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker, who has been less forthcoming than Gen. David Petraeus in advance of his testimony, will join Petraeus in pushing for maintaining the U.S. troop surge, seeing it as the only viable option to prevent Iraq and the region from plunging into further chaos, U.S. officials said.

Crocker and Petraeus planned to meet on Sunday to go over their remarks and responses to expected tough questioning from lawmakers — including skeptical Republicans. But they will not consult Bush or their immediate bosses before their appearances Monday and Tuesday, in order to preserve the "independence and the integrity of their testimony," said one official.

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Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070909/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq

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I know this breaking news will SHOCK everyone who reads it.

That's a strategy?

the Democrats are on defense, and the Republicans are safe in the
Green Zone.

:eyes:

Who woulda thunk?

Hey, someone had to do it. :)

They had our troops taking over security responsibilities that the Iraqis should be doing for themselves.

Now we can't leave, because we have taken on those responsibilities and there is no one to turn them over to.

All they did was dig the hole deeper and make it harder to pull out.

There is no exit strategy from Iraq. None.

so, * is listening to his political advisers to decide what to do about his strategy in Iraq. I thought the Decider didn't care about the political aspects of his illegal war -- that he only listened to the generals in the field. Who he will replace if they don't follow his political agenda, which is to keep the war going as it is until January 2009 so * won't be seen as the loser he is.

Just when you think it can't get any stupider.

Source: Guardian UK

The Bush administration's most senior advisers on Iraq, the commander of US forces, General David Petraeus, and the ambassador to Baghdad, Ryan Crocker, will launch a new drive today to defer any exit of troops until April 2008 amid growing doubts about their credibility in Congress and among the public.
In two days of testimony before Congress, Gen Petraeus and Mr Crocker will make the case for the White House that America should maintain the current strategy and force levels in Iraq.

The appearance of Gen Petraeus has drawn comparisons with General William Westmoreland's bullish assessment in 1967 of progress in the Vietnam war, a note underlined by Democratic senators yesterday who said they doubted that the general's testimony would be free of influence from the Bush administration.

"I don't think General Petraeus has an independent view," Dianne Feinstein, a prominent Democratic senator from California, told Fox television.

Dick Durbin, the second ranking Democrat in the Senate, was even more blunt. He told reporters: "By carefully manipulating the statistics the Bush Petraeus report will try and persuade us that the strategy is working."



Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2165946,00.html

the "Hands Up Who DIDN'T See This Coming" catergory.

:hi:
rocknation

He only cares about NeoCon Corporate Profits

:banghead:

"We will be greeted as liberators. We will be greeted as liberators."

"Dan Quayle was a great vice-resident. Dan Quayle was a great vice-president."

"The South won the civil war. The south won the civil war."

"Marilyn Monroe was ugly. Marilyn Monroe was ugly."

"Larry Craig and Mark Foley are not gay. Larry Craig and Mark Foley are not gay."

"George W Bush is compassionate. George W Bush is compassionate."

"DU is a freeper website. DU is a freeper website."

"The Cubs won the World series. The Cubs won the world series."

"We have won the war on drugs. We have won the war on drugs."

"There is no such thing as global warming. There is no such thing as global warming."

"The Americans are not at the airport. The Americans are not at the airport."

"Fox News is fair and balanced. Fox News is fair and balanced."

"50% of the murcan public dont give a rats ass about the war. 50% of....oh wait - that's the truth!

China is emerging as the world's number one super power and we have nothing you can brag about for an economy. Our jobs are outsourced all over the world.

How are we going to feel when we realize we have absolutely no more status in the world?

By the time Bush is out of office his wars won't be ending any time soon.

Pessimistic?

Absolutely.

At age 65+ I am so disappointed in my country....I have seen war after war after war and nothing good comes of them for anyone. Our young people are slovenly, uneducated, high on something, and selfish.

Where is our future?

does anyone know when it's scheduled?

(09-09) 15:12 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --

The following television broadcast networks plan partial or complete live coverage Monday of the hearing before the House Armed Services Committee featuring testimony by Gen. David Petraeus, commander of U.S. troops in Iraq:

_CNN

_CSPAN

The hearing begins at 12:30 p.m. EDT, and also will feature testimony by U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker.

this shit really is...

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In 1918 Joseph Shumpeter painted a haunting picture of imperial Rome caught up in the terrors of an aging civilization:
Here is the classic example of that kind of insincerity in both foreign and domestic affairs which permeates not only avowed motives but also probably the conscious motives of the actors themselves-of that policy which pretends to aspire to peace but unerringly generates war, the policy of continual preparation for war, the policy of meddlesome interventionism. There was no corner of the known world where some interest was not alleged to be in danger or under actual attack. If the interests were not Roman, they were those of Rome's allies; and if Rome had no allies, then allies would be invented. When it was utterly impossible to contrive such an interest-why, then it was the national honor that had been insulted. The fight was always invested with an aura of legality. Rome was always / being attacked by evil-minded neighbors, always fighting for a '> breathing space. The whole world was pervaded by a host of enemies, and it was manifestly Rome's duty to guard against their indubitably aggressive designs. They were enemies who only waited to fall on the Roman people....
Shumpeter goes on to argue that Rome's wars of conquest made no sense "from the point of view of concrete objectives."
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Insurgency_Revolution/Patterns_IAR.html

in September. :sarcasm:

this puppet is about to regurgitate supports shrub's insane occupation using bogus "statistics"?

Wow, who wudda' thunk it???


On edit: Deja Vu all over again...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.powell.transcript/

Source: reuters

Petraeus to argue against big Iraq troop cuts

By Susan Cornwell 5 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In a report considered crucial to U.S. strategy in the highly unpopular war in Iraq, the top U.S. commander there is expected to tell Congress on Monday that U.S. troop levels should not be cut deeply.
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The assessment by Gen. David Petraeus could be a turning point in the conflict and is considered vital to any decisions by President George W. Bush on force levels as he faces demands from Democrats and some senior Republicans for U.S. troops to start leaving Iraq.

A U.S. official who asked not to be named said on Sunday that Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker will argue that a major pullout of U.S. forces would hurt progress made since troop numbers were increased by 30,000 earlier this year.

They speak before a joint session of the House Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees. Petraeus' testimony starts at 12:30 p.m./1630 GMT.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070910/ts_nm/iraq_usa_dc;_ylt=AgHt40KAYd8a9qPB8QXTyT.s0NUE

...the neocon Bushbots are using him like a 2-dollar prostitute?

Petraeus will hock Bush's failed fiasco, and promise "improvements" that will never bear fruit. Bush
will pull out some troops in the Spring, and argue that he didn't do it earlier because Petraeus told
him not to.

Does Patraeus know that he's being used as a human shield?

he is just doing his duty

by the time the White House redacted it, it would appear as if Betrayus was 100% behind Bush's "stay the course" non-policy.

Betrayus is a good little soldier who likes being in the limelight and agreeing with his CIC. He's seen what happens to Generals that don't toe the Bush line and doesn't want that to happen to himself.

We all knew what would be in "his" report months ago. It was a foregone conclusion. In Betrayus, Bush has finally found the knob polishing stooge he's been looking for since the start of this war.

:wow: Any idea on where I can find it online?

The surge must go on, Petraeus to tell Congress

· General to testify amid claims he lacks credibility
· Majority of US public want troop reduction, says poll
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2165946,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=12

BBC:
US surge 'failure' says Iraq poll
Most Iraqis think the US troop surge of the past six months has been a failure, a nationwide opinion poll suggests.
Most said the surge in and around Baghdad had made conditions much worse.

The number wanting coalition forces to leave now has risen since a poll in February, but more than half said they should stay until security improved.

More than 2,000 Iraqis were questioned in more than 450 neighbourhoods across all 18 provinces last month, in a survey for the BBC, ABC News and NHK.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

and in doing so will disgrace the graves of the dedicated that gave their lives under the orders of their corrupt Commander-In-Chief.

I hope History takes good notes.

or listen. We have already heard all the lies. It should be called the George W Pretraeus report.

That's why he got the job! If you wrote that book...would you be a bit bias when deciding whether or not it's successful? To say the surge failed is like admitting he and his book are failures.