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Newsjock

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:39 AM
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FBI wants law targeting hats, sunglasses in banks

Source: Seattle Times

The FBI may turn to a new ploy to combat bank robberies: a dress code.

Special Agent Larry Carr plans to work with Washington state lawmakers on legislation that would forbid banks from doing business with customers who wear hats and sunglasses while inside the bank.

... Carr's measure would not include bank customers who wear hats for religious or medical reasons.

Darcy Donahoe-Wilmot, a spokeswoman for Washington Mutual, said it has always been up to tellers to decide whether to ask customers to remove their hats and sunglasses. She said Washington Mutual recently started posting signs in its more than 2,200 branches across the country asking customers to remove all "hoodies, helmets and sunglasses."

Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003883943_bankrobberies14m0.html

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bemildred

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:40 AM
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1. "Carr's measure would not include bank customers who wear hats for religious or medical reasons."

So all bank robbers will look like priests.

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BrotherBuzz

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Fri Sep-14-07 12:22 PM
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14. Or cancer patients

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Wise Doubter

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Fri Sep-14-07 04:59 PM
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33. The Burka will be the new craze among thieves

Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 05:03 PM by Wise Doubter

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Dr.Phool

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:45 AM
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2. What if you have a matching gun to go with the hat and sunglasses?

And we wonder why the FBI couldn't catch a cold.

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:49 AM
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3. This is especially clownish.

Even for the FBI. Sounds like they need to clean house over there.

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saigon68

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Sat Sep-15-07 10:05 AM
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41. The Insane are in Charge of the Asylum

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notadmblnd

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:49 AM
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4. Aren't those bullet proof windows working?

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radfringe

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:51 AM
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5. how about also asking that everyone

must be clean shaven (no furry faces) and no cosmetics

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formercia

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:51 AM
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6. This is all about Muslim attire.

IMHO

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Xenotime

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Fri Sep-14-07 12:32 PM
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15. Agreed. This is a silent war against them.

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formercia

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:01 PM
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16. All this other stuff is smoke. n/t

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slackmaster

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Fri Sep-14-07 04:48 PM
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32. How about passing some of that smoke this way?

No Bogarting on LBN.

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Arugula Latte

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:03 PM
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17. I don't think so -- this has been going on in banks for a long time.

There has been a movement since the early 90s (or maybe even before that) for banks to post No Hats/No Sunglasses signs to help prevent robberies.

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RantinRavin

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:26 PM
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22. Yes, because we all know

that only Muslim's wear hats and sunglasses..

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Ediacara

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Fri Sep-14-07 04:34 PM
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27. I don't think so

I think there's a legitimate concern that CCTVs can't get a clear shot of a person's face if the person is wearing a brimmed hat and/or sunglasses.

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brentspeak

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Fri Sep-14-07 04:40 PM
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30. ????

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slackmaster

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Fri Sep-14-07 04:46 PM
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31. And bank robber attire

Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 04:47 PM by slackmaster

http://www.paloaltodailynews.com/pics/padn/400xN/padn/2006-10-11-lg-robbery

(snicker)

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bitchkitty

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Sun Sep-16-07 08:58 AM
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52. Holy crap! Barbie's a bank robber? n/t

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asjr

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:53 AM
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7. Hats and sunglasses have robbed more

banks than Jesse James. Folks, we have now heard it all.

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Felinity

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:54 AM
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8. My S&L has a big sign on the door

No hats or visors. Don't remember if sunglasses are noted.

I really don't think we need a law.

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Lobster Martini

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:57 AM
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9. BREAKING: Bank Robbed by Pope and Nun (n/t)

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zonkers

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Fri Sep-14-07 09:58 AM
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10. I heard there is no cell phone usasge allowed in Banks. For obvious security reasons. nt

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mcscajun

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Fri Sep-14-07 10:52 AM
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11. This is, of course, ridiculous. We didn't need a "hat law" to catch the Mad Hatter

Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 10:52 AM by mcscajun

in NJ that was on a bank-robbing spree here recently. He did, however, hit quite a few banks (more than a few, in fact) before his capture.

Thursday, September 13, 2007
Now, it's over. The saga of the "Mad Hatter," that is.

James Madison pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court on Tuesday to six bank robberies and admitted involvement in 18. He had planned to plead guilty last month, but reconsidered. On Tuesday, he went through with it.

Madison earned the nickname "Mad Hatter" because he sported a different hat during each heist. Partly because of his attire and remarkable string of success, Madison became a celebrity of sorts. Many wondered what his story was, and also, why he never stopped when he was ahead -- like after, say, the 14th successful bank robbery.

In the end, it turned out that Madison was a paroled killer; he had served 20 years for manslaughter.

On Tuesday, U.S. Attorney Chris Christie said he wished the media would avoid "mythologizing" criminals by giving them nicknames. Christie has a fair point, but at the same time, some type of mythology is going to occur when a man continues to get away with robbing banks. The nickname would not have developed if Madison had been caught sooner.

http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007709130313

More:
http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007709120341

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Gormy Cuss

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Fri Sep-14-07 11:48 AM
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12. The banks want the FBI to do the dirty work for them.

After reading the whole article, it's clear to me that some banks are afraid to institute such a policy because customers won't put up with it and will move to banks without the policy.

If it's the law customers no longer have a choice.

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Ian David

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Fri Sep-14-07 11:49 AM
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13. Seriously?

Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 11:50 AM by IanDB1

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lligrd

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:09 PM
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18. Laughable - How Are You Going To Prove Medical Or Religious

reasons? And why would my medical problems or religious beliefs be any of the banks business?

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ProudDad

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:11 PM
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19. They have a sign at the local FCU about this

requesting that people remove hats and sunglasses.

They keep it pretty dark so I usually remove my sunglasses in order to see...don't remove my hat though.

I though about it and decided that the whole idea was pretty damn stupid. I would think that the hat and sunglasses that an actual crook would wear would be as much a part of their permanent outfit as a tattoo.

If you make them take them off at the door, get pictures of them robbing the place on tape, then you use those non-typical, non-representative pictures to try to look for them when they've got their hat and glasses back on; good luck, you f*cking idiot cops...

Very stupid on every level...

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:25 PM
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21. Very stupid on every level...

Just like the "no firearms" signs/policy posted in banks and other places of business that are frequent targets of armed robberies have proven to be very effective in preventing such crimes from occurring.

See for yourself...

:sarcasm:

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ProudDad

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Sat Sep-15-07 10:08 PM
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50. I'm getting worried

This is the 2nd time in a week we've agreed on something... :hi: :toast:

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allisonthegreat

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:13 PM
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20. what next? n/t

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snot

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:46 PM
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23. They need to add trees:

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/07/09/man-disguised-as-tre.html

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TrogL

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Fri Sep-14-07 01:50 PM
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24. I need sunglasses when I have a migraine

otherwise I'll throw up all over the teller window.

I'm not cleaning it up.

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AnneD

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Fri Sep-14-07 03:53 PM
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25. I went to my bank just to make sure but....

Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 04:07 PM by AnneD

there is no sign on the door that prohibits:
hats
sunglasses
fake beards
character masks
ski masks
pantie hose
phony glasses
real glasses
ill fitting clothing
costumes
pens
pencils
crayons
sharpies
markers
highlighters
paper
used envelopes
deposit slips
paper sacks
garbage bags
laundry bags
toy guns
real guns
grenades
tennis rackets
finger in coat pockets
machine guns
swords
pitch fork
hoe
rifle
cane
purses
shoes
liquids over 3 oz.
etc. etc. etc.

Great Cesar's Ghost!!!! We are just inviting bank robbers to rob us. No wonder we are robbed. I am so glad the FBI is on top of this breach in security.

Now, if I could only get into the bank-it's hard to find the door for all the prohibition stickers.....

Edited to add...I don't think DUer's need the sarcasm icon, but then I don't think we need to post those warnings either.

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Ediacara

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Fri Sep-14-07 04:33 PM
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26. I think the purpose is to get a clear shot of the FACE by the security cameras

Since the cameras are usually mounted behind the teller line and near the ceiling, brimmed hats and sunglasses render them almost useless.

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ohio2007

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Fri Sep-14-07 04:38 PM
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29. same thing may apply in operating rooms at hospitals

Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 04:40 PM by ohio2007

AT least in Detroit
Doctor-in-Training Caught in Park with AK-47

http://www.wxyz.com/content/news/seenon7priority/story.aspx?content_id=b9d585ac-980e-4fe1-b27a-0a4c126d54af

Doctor-in-Training Mystery Deepens

As the FBI investigates a Wayne State medical student caught in a Dearborn park with a loaded AK-47, WXYZ has obtained the 911 call that triggered his arrest and discovered new information about what police found in his house.

http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=0f527303-3b17-4588-88f2-43283cf02574&rss=785

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slackmaster

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Fri Sep-14-07 04:38 PM
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28. What about people who wear sunglasses for medical reasons?

They always give people with vision problems a raw deal.

:argh:

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Deja Q

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Fri Sep-14-07 05:02 PM
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34. How about glasses for medical reasons?

Get your eyes dilated for the optometrist's tests and go deposit your money afterward, oh dear...

If asked to remove my sunglasses, I'd do it. No big deal. Inconvenient if I'm holding onto a lot of checks, but whatever.

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hedgehog

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Fri Sep-14-07 05:26 PM
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35. I always wear a broad brimmed hat in the summer because I burn easily.

I also have the kind of lenses that darken in bright sun. they take 5 or 10 minutes to go clear once I go inside.

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Hekate

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Fri Sep-14-07 05:58 PM
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36. Well, I'm sunk! As a sun-avoider I wear hats and sunglasses virtually year-round!

Does this new thing count as discrimination against the melanin-impaired?

Hekate

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MilesColtrane

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Fri Sep-14-07 08:41 PM
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37. Naked Banking

An idea whose time has arrived.

Still working on "withdrawal' and "deposit" jokes....

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lonestarnot

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Fri Sep-14-07 08:44 PM
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38. Naked banking

OMG, no pockets to put yer money in sooooo then what?

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AnneD

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Sat Sep-15-07 12:57 PM
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45. You forgot......

Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 12:58 PM by AnneD

about safety deposit box ;)

When checking out your interest, never make a night deposit without checking your safety deposit box before and after your withdrawal. No telling what the yield might be. You may wind up with a little dividend you hadn't counted on. But that might work out ok at tax time, now that you have an additional tax deduction.

Does that work for you Miles:spray:

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MilesColtrane

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Sat Sep-15-07 01:37 PM
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46. Ha!

OH No you Di'int!!

I counted twelve puns. Is that right? I'll have to check your figure. ;)

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AnneD

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Sat Sep-15-07 03:00 PM
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48. Only....

if you have overdraft protection, hubby is the jealous sort, so you have to make a good accounting of yourself:rofl:

I have had a run on my bank joke. I pretty much bankrupt at this point. Have a good one.;)

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Snarkturian Clone

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Sat Sep-15-07 07:29 AM
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39. This has to be bullshit.

Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 07:29 AM by Snarkturian Clone

When I was a bank teller they told us in training that the bank as a corp doesn't care much about robberies because the average take is only like $800-$1200 which is farthlings to a bank.

typo edit

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Lionel Mandrake

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Sat Sep-15-07 12:31 PM
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43. Right you are.

Who gets hurt in a robbery?

Tellers and security guards are not paid much and not highly valued employees.

Retail customers don't matter, either.

The take is usually peanuts.

Giganticorp Bancshares doesn't give a shit about robberies.

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LiberalFighter

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Sat Sep-15-07 10:01 AM
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40. FBI agents shouldn't wear sunglasses and communication devices in their ears

They might be robbers posing as FBI agents.

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benEzra

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Sat Sep-15-07 10:30 AM
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42. Robber walks into bank..."Oh, damn...I'm not allowed to rob this bank unless I take off my mask..."

"here, hold my gun a minute...thanks, OK, I'm good. Stick 'em up..."

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Eric J in MN

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Sat Sep-15-07 12:35 PM
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44. People don't wear sunglasses just for the hell of it.

They often wear sunglasses because the glare of the sun bothers them.

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Buns_of_Fire

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Sat Sep-15-07 02:42 PM
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47. Ha! I can still wear duct tape!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20286035/

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Screwfly

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Sat Sep-15-07 03:38 PM
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49. This law might backfire

Outlaw wearing hats and sunglasses might cut down on the type of bank robbery where the robber gives the teller a note demanding money or else.

However, the number of "take over" style bank robberies where robbers brandish guns, tell everybody to get on the floor, and maybe shoot a few people to show they mean business might also go up.

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Freddie Stubbs

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Sat Sep-15-07 11:35 PM
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51. Corey Hart won't like this at all

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