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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:24 AM
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"You are no longer monks," Myanmar prisoners told
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"You are no longer monks," Myanmar prisoners told

By Aung Hla Tun Thu Oct 11, 7:36 AM ET

YANGON (Reuters) - Hundreds of Buddhist monks rounded up by Myanmar's junta were beaten and kept in animal-like conditions without toilets or drinking water during days of interrogation, one of those freed said on Thursday.


"At the beginning it was very, very bad," one recently released monk told Reuters, requesting anonymity because of the threat of repercussions against those who speak out against the regime, the latest face of 45 years of unbroken military rule.

Caged for more than a week at a former Government Technical Institute compound in north Yangon, the monks -- revered figures in the devoutly Buddhist nation -- were stripped of their maroon monastic robes and treated like common criminals.

"When one of us used a pronoun referring to himself as a monk, he was slapped," the monk said. "Then an interrogator said: 'You are no longer a monk. You are just an ordinary man with a shaven head."'

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071011/ts_nm/myanmar_monks_dc;_ylt=AoIB.4DWqiJm3aXH87gI.DOs0NUE
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:45 AM
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1. Fortunately the monks know better.
They think the Buddhist path is just a self-inflicted mental psyop that can be broken by force gaslighting techniques. The Buddhas are laughing at them.

It only displays the desperation of the torturers and the righteousness and clear perception of the tortured. The junta is more attached to the idea of being a monk than the monks are.

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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:46 PM
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9. Maybe the junta should hire cartoonists and draw images of
Buddha
yep show the monks that the pen is mightier than the sword

I don't think the monks can remounce with womens undies put on their heads
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 04:02 PM
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10. I cannot even contemplate the karma such people will have to
undo in some life, some place. these monks are true practitioners of their beliefs. they are my heroes.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:48 AM
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2. ...
:cry:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:55 AM
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3. This regime didn't make those men monks
It certainly doesn't have the power to make them not monks. And both the slapper and the slappee know that. But you can bet some little gnome in the Bush "Justice" Department is watching this situation closely, and taking careful notes.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:00 AM
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4. what motivates the junta?
i mean, they were RAISED buddhists, too. they have to know their actions are unethical as well as anyone.

when i learned metta, i asked the teacher if i should say it for George W. Bush. he said it was too difficult. but not compared to the path these monks are walking.

i bet those monks are saying metta for their captors.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:04 AM
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5. The question I always ask myself and others
is whether you'd rather see them or be them.

I would rather be one of the monks getting a beating than a supporter of the junta administering it.

I can't imagine being such a limited human being that someone would be able to order me to administer torture to another person and that I would carry it out without either question or mercy.

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:06 AM
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6. often, disobeying the order to torture means your life
its how authoritarian regimes function.

both the guard & the captive are in prison.

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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:39 PM
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7. It would take just one person to refuse
and it could snowball from there. If they all put down their weapons and refused to kill and torture it would end.

That's my dream.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:43 PM
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8. well...go set the example and refuse
From what I've read, it appears hundres if not thousands have refused and paid with their lives already this past month
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 04:03 PM
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11. What's with
...the snarky sarcastic tone? We're on the same side here.

Peace.

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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:31 PM
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13. I think that
Edited on Thu Oct-11-07 11:31 PM by file83
the snarky sarcastic tone is the subtext which reveals Ohio2007 couldn't follow the path you have said you would. It says that Ohio2007 sadly admits that he/she would probably follow orders as a guard for the junta.

Of course, I may be wrong.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:12 PM
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12. "He gassed his own people!"
Where are those flash-in-the-pan human rights activists in the rightwing now?
You'd think FAUX would be covering these abuses 24/7
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