Pelosi Rejects Any House Vote On Iranian Revolutionary Guard (Kyl-Lieberman)

Source: CBS News

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Sunday she has no plans to bring up a Senate resolution asking the Bush administration to declare the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps a foreign terrorist organization.

“This has never happened before that a Congress should determine one piece of someone’s military is (a threat),” Pelosi said on ABC’s “This Week.” “If it's a problem to us and our troops in Iraq, they should deal with it in Iraq.” ...


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/14/politics/politico/thecrypt/main3365492.shtml

Did she finally grow a spine?

which is a start.

there is something else in the works. They have caved on everything else why the sudden departure from the norm?

I don't trust that woman anymore! Particularly after her secret pact with Barney Frank to backstab part of the LGBT community on ENDA.

:)

I am all for criticism, and I have done much of it myself, but I would think that someone who comes to Democraticunderground.com has to like *something* about Democrats. I certainly haven't seen all of your posts here, so maybe it is just a fluke... it just seems like everything you post is critical of Democrats. I am not looking to pick a fight, just wondering.

The sight of the name brings some to unthinking conclusions.

Some of you refuse to see reality!

Pelosi has the power to block legislation in the House. She did not have to bring a war funding bill to the floor, yet she did. How many have died since?

Pelosi is more of a dismal failure than Gephardt.

If what I post about her is factually correct, your call for "loyalty" is the same crap we heard from people that used to defend Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman on this board.

Habitually.

Who are you? Torquemada?

Her peculiar caveat "unless Iran attacks first" seems to go along with what Sy Hersh revealed Israel and Cheney were cooking. Have Israel or the US stage a provocation that would result in an Iranian response, then accuse Iran of an unprovoked attack as the pretext for bombing that country.

The WMD lies no longer work, so now they have to say that Iran is guilty of yada-yada-yada.

deny access to resupply US forces in Iraq/Afghanistan. This genocide sabre rattling may get enough votes for the Turkish army to move into northern Iran
or
the Parliment will limit US access to its bases.
That is if
this "US genocide bill" really is a thorn in their Turkish taffy. This may only be beltway buisness as usual .

imo, what has been worded into a bill isn't anymore different then what the French worded and voted on concerning that 100 year old issues in Asia minor.

Within days it not only came to the floor but passed with a lot of Democratic support. She says a lot of things and then turns around and does something different.

This is naturally opposed to that sort of belief system.

Care to answer my question?
Also, could you please point out the call to "loyalty" in my post?

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is a longstanding DU who has brought much to this community over the years. She is a progressive and is therefore allowed to post at this site. Got a problem with that???

Until THEY get re-aligned with the party, we will express our disagreement with THEIR leaving the fold of the party, until THEY COME BACK.

just a hunch.

about the 'so called terrorist forces of Iran" did move the Israeli soldiers to Iran


Captive Israeli soldiers 'held in Iran'
Source: AFP

Captive Israeli soldiers 'held in Iran'
7 hours ago

DUBAI (AFP) — Two Israeli soldiers captured by Lebanon's Shiite movement Hezbollah in 2006 have been handed to Iran and could be freed in a German-brokered swap, an Arabic newspaper reported on Sunday.

Asharq Al-Awsat quoted a source identified as a high-ranking official in the office of Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as saying they had been transferred by the elite Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

"The operation to transfer the two Israeli soldiers to (a country) outside Lebanon and then to Iran was executed by a special unit belonging to the Al-Quds Legion," the source said, according to London-based Saudi-owned paper.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3028072&mesg_id=3028072

I don't think a story like that will be given much life.

no one who bets against the dems ever pays up.

You know, with it being non-binding and all. :rofl:

If you do and opposed it, you're being hypocritical if you don't applaud this.

:shrug:

In a series of public statements in recent months, President Bush and members of his Administration have redefined the war in Iraq, to an increasing degree, as a strategic battle between the United States and Iran. “Shia extremists, backed by Iran, are training Iraqis to carry out attacks on our forces and the Iraqi people,” Bush told the national convention of the American Legion in August. “The attacks on our bases and our troops by Iranian-supplied munitions have increased. . . . The Iranian regime must halt these actions. And, until it does, I will take actions necessary to protect our troops.” He then concluded, to applause, “I have authorized our military commanders in Iraq to confront Tehran’s murderous activities.”

The President’s position, and its corollary—that, if many of America’s problems in Iraq are the responsibility of Tehran, then the solution to them is to confront the Iranians—have taken firm hold in the Administration. This summer, the White House, pushed by the office of Vice-President Dick Cheney, requested that the Joint Chiefs of Staff redraw long-standing plans for a possible attack on Iran, according to former officials and government consultants. The focus of the plans had been a broad bombing attack, with targets including Iran’s known and suspected nuclear facilities and other military and infrastructure sites. Now the emphasis is on “surgical” strikes on Revolutionary Guard Corps facilities in Tehran and elsewhere, which, the Administration claims, have been the source of attacks on Americans in Iraq. What had been presented primarily as a counter-proliferation mission has been reconceived as counterterrorism.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/08/071008fa_fact_hersh

and, how does this make sense in terms of Pelosi's and Reid's relationship? how can it serve the Dems' interest to have the house and senate out of step?

Clinton said on Countdown that the Kyl-Lieberman vote about "diplomacy." I wonder how Pelosi will handle this? if she's not going to bring a measure for diplomacy to the table, could there be a reason? it would be nice if there were.

a thank you FAX, we all need to encourage her when she makes comments like that, perhaps if she knows she has lots of support on issues like this she will be less likely to fold.

What a giant set she has today!

Yay, Speaker Pelosi!

Hope it continues.

UNLESS a House member introduces a similar resolution in the House.

In this age of political theater, a House member could introduce a resolution having the same language, or the original more bellicose language, of the Lieberman resolution. The House could vote for it and one could say that they never voted for Kyl-Lieberman.

sigh.

Let's reward this unusual show of spine by boosting support for Congress if anyone around here is polled within the next day or so.

J

I had no idea she had that much power.

:thumbsup:

The Dems need to learn to use the power they do have instead of whining about "not having the votes."

...for the occupation of Iraq, too.

I don't know, maybe it's a start of something resembling vestigial backbone. Or maybe it's closer to sticking a petunia in a pile of donkey shit and calling it a bouquet.

We'll know for sure if/when someone tries to bring comparable legislation to the house floor.

I'm going to give her praise for this. She should have done the same thing with that stupid MoveOn censure and the anti-FISA bill.