A drink a day for health? Forget it, research says

Source: Chicago Tribune/Seattle Times

CHICAGO — You eat your veggies, you exercise at least a few times a week, you gave up cigarettes and hormone-replacement pills, and you have a glass of red wine every day, all because you care about your health.

But one of these things is not like the others.

While your attention has been elsewhere, scientists have amassed persuasive evidence that drinking alcohol regularly — any form, even in moderate amounts — can pose a serious threat to your health.

Researchers have known for nearly 20 years that drinking alcoholic beverages can cause cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus and liver. But those diseases don't receive much publicity. The International Agency for Research on Cancer this year added breast and colon cancer — two of the four major killer cancers — to the list of malignancies known to be fostered by alcohol.



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Well, I have it on a good source that one DU post a day IS GOOD for your health! :)

:o

if it were only a question of that.

Clearly more investigation is called for....*hic*.

Screw the scientists. *hic*

:beer:

That sound healthy? :P

:beer:

The ever changing rules are enough to drive me to drink.

Screw that.

I average about 3 bottles (Sauvignon Blanc) a night and I haven't been (physically) ill in years.

If you do, then we'll know that YOUR way was the WRONG way.

:beer: :rofl:

That does seem a bit excessive, Mr. T.

Heck, ellaydubya, if you were in my situation...

I just worry about you- and that's the truth.

I'm not usually one to give unsolicited advise to a total stranger, but it is just barely possible you have drinking issues and perhaps should see a doctor. Most people who drink that much of any alcoholic beverage every day turn out to have some kind of problem they cannot deal with directly, not to mention some very serious health issues, and drink excessively to cope. You may begin to get nasty messages from your liver in the form of severe upper abdominal pain, if you aren't already. Just food for thought.

I take it you're kidding, right?

:rofl:

3 BOXES of Sauvignon Blanc a night.

(hic)

When I will be too old to enjoy it!

I think I will have a big glass of wine.

Decisions...decisions...gotta die of *something*... :P

is my suicide drug of choice. But India Pale Ale (either from the Northwest, or Southern Tier Brewery here in NY) is a close second.

Let the nannies worry about what they do, leave me the fuck alone!

as wine, w/o the side effects of alcohol.

So...I don't know.

I tend to believe that everything in moderation (unless you have a specific ailment that forbids something) is the key to good health. One glass of wine a day is probably more than "moderation," IMO. A glass several times a week seems better. (For myself...I wouldn't drink that much; I rarely drink alcohol.)

What's life without a little vice, anyway? Life without jelly beans or Oreos or chips or whatever your vice passion happens to be? Unthinkable. Moderation is the key, though.

ALL wine does

that is a terrible and irresponsible suggestion by your doctor, drinking fruit juice daily is as bad as drinking soda daily, you should only consume whole fruit, get a glucose meter and some test strips (even walmart sells them) and test your blood sugar response to see if you should be drinking that much sugar, there's pretty good odds that you're actually harming your health

a moderate amount of a DRY red wine has only a few carbs, an 8 oz cup of unsweetened grape juice has about 15 grams of carbs! compared to a standard 5 oz glass of dry red wine which has about 4 grams

one 5 oz. glass of red wine a day is certainly moderate, in fact, it is the amount of red wine advised in britain to women (this in a country w. a national health plan so they have nothing to gain by giving bad advice)

a woman who drinks one 5 oz. glass of wine a day indisputably in study after study lives longer than the teetotaller or the woman who drinks to excess

the only reason i could see for drinking the juice instead of wine is if you had a history of alcoholism in self or family, even then, i would not drink the juice, i would instead eat whole red grapes

It will just seem like it.

Notice you don't hear anything about vodka-resistant staph infections.

My friend's living room 4 am. I was a teenager. It ate the paint off immediately. I had to repaint a radiator at 4 am so my friend's parents wouldn't find out. I tend to think it might be bad for your tummy if it eats paint.

Phosphoric acid AND hard liquor.

Because the coca cola ate the plastic. Diet coca cola ate it way faster.

What was that about vodka again?

:rofl:

and, :toast:, ha! MKJ

Just wait around a few years.

with cancer of the tonsil which has caused a large neck mass. In her younger days (she's now 69), she drank pretty heavily and still drinks occasionally. She never smoked so it must have been the alcohol. She will have surgery next week to remove the tonsils and the neck mass and will then have radiation everyday for 2 months. Hopefully, it has not spread elsewhere. She had a PET scan on Friday to ascertain that.

Surley life is a little more complex than "either smokes or alcohol"

not to blame.

With all the chemicals in our food, air and water, combined with genetic inclinations, it's just impossible to assign any specific cause to most cancers.

Your mom is lucky to have you. Hugs to you both and I hope the results provide good news. MKJ

human tendancy to try to find something to blame when something very bad happens. I just want her to come out of this OK. Thanks for the concern.

on ME!!! :crazy:

have a glass of wine, you aren't going to live forever anyway.

and you'll make it to the ripe old age of 107, and the last 30 years of your life will be a slow painful deterioration while your friends and family keep dying around you and you sit in a nursing home all day

but at least you never drank, or god forbid smoked

Smoked,
Slouched,
Drank,
Laughed,
Cursed like a sailor,
and had one hell of a good time while you were here.

No matter how you play it, the hand you're dealt remains the same. :-)

'cause Stoicism is way over-rated... n/t

. . . and die at the age of 49 of lung cancer like my grandmother did. That was 30 years ago this month.

Sorry, but I'd give anything to have her back. I'd be more than happy to visit and take care of her at 79.

be bad for my health. Or even Dewars or J&B.

Or three packs of tobacco....

Until then, bottoms up.

I prefer the emails I receive at my workplace (believe it or not) where one of my wino co-workers talks about his favorite wines every Friday afternoon.

He ends it with, "5:00, CORKS OUT!"

But I am not convinced. I think I'll keep trying.

than my friends who never don't. Please pass me another, bartender.

Seriously, I give up. I cut fat and lost weight because my cholesterol was too high (got it down from 254 to 187) I cut back on sweets because my blood sugar was 20 points below being diabetic. (Still too high. :eyes:)

Now a glass of wine is bad. Screw it.

I am not going to live forever. MIght as well enjoy some of the finer things in life while I can.

Mz Pip
:dem:

100-110.

99 is too high. 123 is diabetic. Mine is 103. Seems like everything is "pre" condition. Pre-diabetic, pre-hypertensive. It's all just pre-death anyway. :eyes; Ugh.

Mz Pip
:dem:

It's been about 100-110 on fasting the last couple of months. When I asked if it was a problem they said no.

any one else care to add to that list where people fairly long lives -- and many consume at least one bevarage a day that is alcohol?

The reduced impact of heart disease after drinking red wine (and almost any alcohol in moderation) is well proven. There are counter-indications which are overwhelmed by the positive effects of red wine.

Like a neo-prohibitionist screed.

Everything gives you cancer...

(music trivia moment)

They love to lie about pot, too.

all these things are going to kill me and then that they'll make me healthy and then that they'll kill me again.



If I stopped eating everything that people told me would hurt me, I would be eating grass every day.

...pass for "red wine?"

oh the choices....

I think I need a drink. Bottom's UP!!!
:beer: :beer: :beer:

you will live for a very long time. But I don't think I want to live for 100 years being hungry all the time.

we have a huge data base of folks who do this voluntarily, for the money (they are models) or because they have an eating disorder

anorexics have a hugely elevated risk of heart disease, i heard of an anorexic dying at age 14 and many die in their 20s

a starvation diet may be good for mice, but we are not rodents, we are primates

heavier women live longer than underweight women even in old age, when the real anorexics have long since fallen by the wayside and out of the statistics because they're already dead -- this is because being underweight leads to an increased risk of osteoporosis, which leads to broken hips, lack of mobility, and eventually death from something as simple as a broken hip (i know a number of older women who died of this)

despite the claims of tne calorie restrictors, your body does not know why you're not eating enough food, it is does not say magically, oh, naughty you, you're doing it to look skinny, so your heart will give out, but nice guy you, you're doing it to live longer, so your heart will magically keep on ticking -- no -- it doesn't work like that

superstition that appeals to our wish to be skinny and beautiful and yet still live forever sells -- but it's still just superstition


we make choices, and while i try to avoid making judges about pro-ana (because they are doing it for aesthetic reasons and i guess you have a choice to make your body look the way you want it to), i can't help making judgments about people who claim under nutrition is good for health and will make you live longer, they MUST know it isn't true, the math doesn't lie

illness such as cancer that might cause her to not eat; if they don't have body fat they are going down a lot faster. Heavier women can lose 20 lbs and still not be skin and bones. I had a friend who was five foot five and weighed about 105. She got cancer and lost 20 lbs after chemo and it killed her. She had radiation to her chest and had trouble swallowing, and well, it seemed only a month later that she was gone. Her doctor/family all said that the combo of chemo, low blood counts and no food did her in.....................

lung cancer and never smoked in her life. The second friend I've lost this year that were non-smokers. Wake up people. Think it can't get you? Think again. Okay off my soapbox.