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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:50 PM Original message |
Internal Dem memo faults party message |
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maseman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Amen |
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bigworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. I have to agree |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. You know who's been saying that for seven years? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Drew Westen wrote a whole book on this. Dems besides Kucinich and Dean didn't seem to read it |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
38. both dennis and dean DID read it, and |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. that's what I meant--they seem to be the only ones who did |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I know, and we agree. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. problem isn't whether Dems want to win, but who they want to win for, and it aint us |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. he's posted here a few times in the past |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. Bartcop remembers what it meant to be a dem. He rules. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. No kidding. |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
69. One of the ways they do it is ... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #69 |
83. Very nice.... |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Yeah |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. karma |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. Or...they could try actually accomplishing something |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
42. I would rather have them TRY to end the war in Iraq |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Me too Jeff. I would have paid to watch the fight! |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. I completely agree |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is OH so true. ---Could it be that our party has difficulty |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
71. Listen, The GOP have one message DICTATED to them. They have think tanks and $ to spend |
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justgamma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't know why they don't use phrases |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Yes, indeed. Words DO matter. And we DO need to frame the debate. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. Seven replies and ZERO recommends?? K&R, I say... |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Joining you with a K&R |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
12. Here you go: "Get Government out of our Bodies, Bedrooms, and Bloodstreams". |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Here ya go |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Kick Ass! |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. good ones |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. What message? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. exactly. I dont think the words are the problem. When a Democratic leader |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. They think they will be shoe-ins because Bush has been such a disaster. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
66. It's not just disheartening, it's cowardly and cruel. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. that what it seems like at times |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
49. As the saying goes "Actions speak louder than words" |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Psst ... keeping the powder dry, don'tchya you know. |
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badgervan (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
16. Tip |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
21. How about: Fighting terror starts at home |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
22. Fuckin A Yeah ! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
67. THAT'S the problem? To me, the Dem party refusing to stand up for the Constitution is a bigger one. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. While I would agree that the Democratic party should stand up for the Constitution |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
23. We don't need government. We don't need anarchy. |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:40 AM Response to Original message |
25. The Democrats have already conceded the 08 elections. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Good post, well said |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
45. The Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
72. Rahm Emanuel should 'move back to Israel? He's from Illinois. |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #72 |
82. I stand corrected |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
26. If they'd stop being shrinking violets everytime the House Repubs stomp their feet... |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
27. The First Democrat To Call Bush An "Asshole" And Refuse |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 05:36 AM Response to Original message |
28. He couldn't come up with anything |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Its much needed criticism |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I'm not impressed |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
29. They still act and talk as if they're the minority |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
32. Not to be snipish |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
33. It would help |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
35. We don't HAVE a united, clear party message, THAT'S the problem. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. It's not just that, though |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Give me 2 clear party messages |
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Dyedinthewoolliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Here's two |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. 1. Defend the Middle Class via fair trade economic policis. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I think both yours |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
37. The Dems only need to start uttering one word to perk their numbers up. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
39. designated party of failure |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
43. WTF? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. If the voters don't put 2 and 2 together, they won't see that their needs |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. Except, of course, that would be a lie, because what have they done to help? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Yeah... on the huge issues... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Worse, the ones who have tried are being blocked by the Dem leadership. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Which makes it even harder to formulate a message. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
47. Paging Drew Weston. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
50. Dems don't have the echo chamber that the GOP has built either |
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shayna2000 (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
51. Here's a test |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Welcome to DU, shayna2000! |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. I don't know what it is officially, but to me it's all about |
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blossomstar (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
56. FINALLY, they get it. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
58. This one would work. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
59. oh fucking WAAHH WAAH. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
61. This passage sums up why we are POLITICAL IDIOTS. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
75. the "leadership aides" tell us in their own words why they should be fired! |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. EXCELLENT post, my friend. Fine analysis. Cheers. n/t |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
62. They should have pressed the "moron* hates kids" when he* vetoed the |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
65. They just don't get it - it's their letting criminals walk that's killing them. |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
81. It Ain't The Meat ... It's The Motion |
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