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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:17 PM
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Partisan gamesmanship likely behind House vote on impeachment
Source: McClatchy Newspapers




Posted on Tue, Nov. 06, 2007
Partisan gamesmanship likely behind House vote on impeachment

David Lightman and Renee Schoof | McClatchy Newspapers

last updated: November 06, 2007 07:44:06 PM

WASHINGTON ..........
Then, in a vote that stunned even the anti-war forces, the House of Representatives — helped in no small part by Republicans eager to debate the issue and portray Democrats as radical — voted 251-162 to keep the Cheney impeachment measure alive. The majority was formed by 165 Republicans and 86 Democrats.

The measure's next, and probably last, stop is the House Judiciary Committee, which Democrats control. The House voted 218 to 194, on a largely party-line vote, to send the measure there.

That was done to end the debate. Speaker Nancy D. Pelosi, D-Calif., and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., adamantly oppose the measure. They say it takes time and energy away from more pressing concerns. They also don't want to engage in an impeachment debate that riles partisan passions going into a presidential election year. Pelosi's ruled out impeachment since she became speaker in January, saying the nation doesn't want to go through such a spectacle again.

"Pelosi did not want what she considers the party's radical element to control the agenda, but Dennis Kucinich called their bluff," said Michael Franc, a political analyst at Washington's Heritage Foundation.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/v-print/story/21157.html
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:18 PM
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1. Ya think?!
*sigh*

Does the media even try to pay attention to what they write?

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:24 PM
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2. yeah Nancy...rubberstamping the Bush agenda is hard work
real hard work. :eyes:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:11 PM
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15. Yup, Nancy, being a handmaid is hard work isn't it!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:27 PM
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3. What is radical about restoring the rule of law and restoration of our Constitution from criminals?
Unelected, installed criminals involved in criminal conspiracies-that's radical.

Ignoring the will of we, the people and our Constitution-that's radical.

Being a domestic enemy of The United States of America-that's radical.

Treason, that's radical.

Dennis Kucinich isn't radical.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:15 AM
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7. Our Founding Fathers were radicals that were opposed to an all powerful sovereign
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 12:16 AM by IndianaGreen
which is why when the Constitution was framed, it divided the powers of the sovereign into three equal branches.

Now we are back with an all powerful executive, and the enablers of tyranny in Congress are calling us radicals.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:32 AM
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11. If radical means getting down to root causes, fine.
I'm a radical, then. Oh, the horror!
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:27 PM
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4. Radical element? Radical element?!
I'm radical because I don't wish to appease republicans and I choose to stand up for the constitution?

Pardon me.
I'm gonna have a fucking outrage.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:27 PM
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5. The entire media is spinning this as a Democratic farce!
If you are already depressed don't google "Kucinich impeachment" for news stories. Dennis is just lucky that Leno and the rest are off due to the writers strike.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:08 AM
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6. McClatchy stinks
I've seen plenty of their articles in the News and Observer (and the Sac Bee, for that matter) out of their Washington bureau that are basically reworded press releases from the White House.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:40 AM
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8. How the fuck does nancy know
"the nation doesn't want to go through such a spectacle again."?

I want to know what kind of deal she made w/TPTB!
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:36 PM
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20. A deal with Nancy
you can bet your last peso,money is the answer.
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noel adamson Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:22 AM
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9. Maybe they can restore a measure of respectability and honor to the White House
after they restore those qualities to the process of impeachment so badly cheapened by their political use against Clinton. The Republicans will also want to scapegoat Bush to divert blame away from themselves and their corporate masters for the terrible destruction of the last 7 years. I think we can have the impeachment and they can eat it too.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:24 AM
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10. "Radical element"? Wtf --
I'm radical because I don't think a felon should lead this country into another war of choice?

:wtf:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:14 AM
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12. Nancy Pelosi thinks partisanship going into an election is a bad idea?
Where did they find that fucking genius?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:14 PM
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16. Impeachment will rile the Republican base but running HRC
will not. :crazy:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:25 AM
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13. Well, considering that global warming is accelerating so fast that in 3 years we'll see things we
expected to see in 100 years, I'd say we can safely impeach cheney AND get the people's work done in Congress, Nancy, so stfu and do the PEOPLE'S WILL. And stop guessing what we want.

We want cheney in prison, Nancy. DO IT.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:36 AM
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14. Nancy likes wearing the big pants.
but god help the poor bastard that goes up against her.

pelosi has turned into (maybe she always was) and out of touch control freak.

so now the dems are doing their own little character assassination.

lovely.

:banghead:

well the democratic party hasn't left me, only the ones that serve their repuke masters have left me.

The other half I support whole heartedly! Go Dennis! Expose the hypocrisy!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:16 PM
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17. Why is McClatchy quoting some freak from the HERITAGE FOUNDATION?
"Pelosi did not want what she considers the party's radical element to control the agenda, but Dennis Kucinich called their bluff," said Michael Franc, a political analyst at Washington's Heritage Foundation.

Note to DU: Nancy didn't say this, he did.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:12 PM
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18. Please everyone, we must not forget the Radical Republicans come election time!
(Sorry, I think the proper term would be "Reactionary Republicans," but the common man/woman "Independent Voters" don't usually understand that term is the polar opposite of "Radical Democrat")

This is going to be an EXCELLENT vote to throw back in these idiot ReThugs come election time.
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Gen. Jack D. Ripper Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:22 PM
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19. "nation doesn't want to go through such a spectacle again"!?!?!?!
Perhaps it would be just a spectacle, if Bush were guilty of nothing more than perjury in a deposition, or if it were a political witch hunt, inspired by some embarrassing personal indiscretion. Yes, that is a spectacle. Holding an elected member of the Executive responsible for violating Constitutional law, however, Speaker Pelosi, IS YOUR FUCKING JOB! You may not take that responsibility seriously, but you better believe we do!
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