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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:11 PM Original message |
Oil Prices: It Gets Worse |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. I know there's a difference between the price of oil and the price at the pump |
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lancer78 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Usually a jump like that |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Informative. Gracias. nt |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I've heard that - about the store owners. I always spring to their (your) defense |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. I don't blame the retailers |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. DAMN! I knew gas prices were catching up with oil prices... |
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Andy Canuck (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. In the US rising oil prices and the falling dollar means double the inflation and |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. DING DING DING |
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Bruce McAuley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm getting my electric tricycle together. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. If I'm not mistaken... |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Note the picture of my vehicle. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. Oh pishaw! |
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Delphinus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Her sister, |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. Do we need another reason to get rid of the "global economy is good for America" |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Peak Oil is here, folks." |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Hmmm. That's a possibility worth considering. nt |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Peak oil, whether it is today or tomorrow is complete speculation.. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. It's true, the peak can only be verified looking in the rearview mirror. |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. Perhaps it was a little after 2020, but while sitting in my Environmental |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I like your attitude. |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. This is the attitude and the direction that will really propel our world |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. No. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Furthermore... |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 02:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
40. They may not be using the term "Peak Oil", but the idea of oil scarcity is well known. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Interesting points you make. Here's some more food for thought. |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. I hadn't heard about this before, so I can only offer an off-the-cuff reading. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Damn! You are really taking me down the rabbit hole. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. I have concluded that the psy-op is peak oil denial |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Brilliant analysis! You should make this into an OP. |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 03:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
42. The article quoted by the OP was saying the opposite. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. One article that says we kinda sorta may have a problem |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. "... when a statement correlates with motive and action, I consider that statement." |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Except that the "Peak Oil" theory goes back to 1956. |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Hubbert could have been where they got the idea of the psy-op from. |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. I considered it, researched it, and no. |
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Cronopio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 03:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. How do you know that they didn't leak the memos themselves? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. those memos just confirmed what the science already told us. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
49. You do know there has to be peak oil at some point, right? |
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Bushwick Bill (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
56. Jesus Christ. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. We got a heating oil delivery today. Anyone want to buy a kidney? nt |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
13. Yikes! |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
15. CNBC was just saying this morning that no one is bothered by prices at the pump |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. CNBC has such a myopic world view. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I have been listening to CNBC while working. They are parroting what you just said. |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. I heard that too this am... |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. Nice of them to tell us what we think, isn't it? |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
22. The both of us know what a major shift this is in the IEA's past position |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Zero. I saw Yergin on CNBC today. |
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Bushwick Bill (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. RP, I want a peaker beatdown. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. That's exactly what I'm planning to do. |
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Jersey Ginny (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
25. My fireplace insert is on its way - look into these or wood stoves |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. That's terrific, except... |
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Bruce McAuley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Might I suggest old pallets? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I hope you checked them first! |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. Executive Summary of IEA report |
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olddad56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. Does anyone remember the other oil price problems of the past.... |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. It's more insidious (and more pathetic) than that |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Good point. The welfare of the Nation is not the goal of the Bush cabal. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
51. The End, this is the End my friend. |
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