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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:52 PM
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Wallace Assailant Released From Prison
Source: AP

HAGERSTOWN, Md. (AP) — The man who shot and paralyzed Alabama Gov. George Wallace during a 1972 presidential campaign stop in Maryland was released from prison Friday after serving 35 years of his sentence.

Arthur H. Bremer, 57, left the prison before sunrise, said Mark A. Vernarelli, a state prison system spokesman.

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Under the conditions of his release, Bremer must stay away from elected officials and candidates. He would have to undergo a mental health evaluation and treatment if the state considers it necessary, and he can't leave Maryland without written permission from the state Parole Commission.

The conditions also require Bremer to submit to electronic monitoring, but Vernarelli said he did not know if such monitoring was in place.

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Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iVpjGV8PU5S65LGcX7syKWSn6IHAD8SQ7SCG0



Could they have waited until after the election to release this guy? There is no evidence that he has expressed any remorse at all.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:55 PM
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1. My sentiments as well. Christ, who makes these calls, ya wonder? nt
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:56 PM
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3. It's in the system.
In some states, prisoners can earn "good time". usually 2-3 days per month off their sentences for not having any rules infractions. If you break the rules, good time can be subtracted. There are other ways to earn good time, such as working in prison industries, attending school, or being involved in certain rehab programs. There is usually a maximum amount you can earn in a month. Usually around 4 or 5 days.

It's one of the few ways the institution can control the population. In reality, the inmates really could run the asylum, if they didn't have incentives. Judging by that, he was probably an exemplary prisoner for his entire sentence.

Serving 35 years is pretty harsh compared to what a lot of people serve for attempted murder.

And no, I don't recall him ever calling a press conference to express his remorse. Probably against the rules.
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Brrrp Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:17 PM
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4. 35 years is plenty
In Spain, the maximum sentence is 40 years. There is no death penalty and no life sentence. This strikes me as a more humane approach to legal vengeance than the one in the US.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:03 PM
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5. Well, I dunno about the remorse biz either...nt
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:57 PM
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2. He shot a racist piece of crap (who later recanted his racist stance) and did the time
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 04:01 PM by YOY
Let him walk the streets. I don't mind.

There's worse who will never see the inside of a jail cell.

It's also not as if our prison system was actually made to "reform criminals" but moreover function as a part corporal-punishment/part-oubliette machination that mixes in those who could be contributing members of society with the true slime who need to be kept from it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:05 PM
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6. What if he shot a saint, a MLK-type?
The justice meted out shouldn't really depend on whether or not the victim was a "nice guy" or not.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:01 PM
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40. He still did the time did he not?
n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:31 PM
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41. Why did you say "He shot a racist piece of crap" then, if it's all about doing the time.
And nothing more than that.

Your implication was plain, that because Wallace had failings as a human, that either he 'deserved' to be shot, or the shooter should somehow get a bit of 'time off' because his victim wasn't such a swell fellah.

That blindfold is on justice for a reason...guess it slips, sometimes.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:09 PM
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42. Because he did.
n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:32 AM
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43. The context mattered. nt
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:19 AM
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34. His attack on Wallace helped guarantee Nixon's re-election...
For those who weren't around at the time, the conventional wisdom was that Wallace, having failed to obtain the Democratic nomination, would run another third-party campaign and, as in 1968, take most of the southern states with him. This would split the right-wing vote, and give a liberal, anti-war candidate like McGovern a chance to win a three-way race.

Once Wallace was paralyzed, any possible third-party candidacy went by the boards. With no one running on his right flank, Nixon was able to put together a center-right coalition that provided him with a landslide win.

So, if you want to talk about political consequences of an act, one could claim that Bremer's attack on Wallace led to Nixon's re-election, the ensuing purge of liberals from Democratic Party leadership, the rise of the notion that Democrats had to "move to the center" that has characterized the DLC era of the party, and the resulting impotence of Democrats in effective government and at the polls, giving us twenty years of Reagan-Bush-Bush maladministrations.

:-(

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM
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7. Man who shot George Wallace to be released.
Source: MSNBC. com

HAGERSTOWN, Md. - The man who shot Alabama Gov. George Wallace during a presidential campaign stop in 1972 is scheduled to be released from a Maryland prison Friday, the governor's office said.

An e-mail from an automated victim-notification system Thursday announced the release date for Arthur H. Bremer, but prison officials refused to confirm it, citing security reasons.

Wallace was paralyzed and abandoned his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination after he was wounded May 15, 1972, in the shooting in Laurel, Md. Three other people were also injured. Wallace died in 1998.

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Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21692917/from/RS.2/



He did 35 years. Good behavior time reduced his sentence from 53 years.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM
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8. I don't like this. . .
Ordinarily, I oppose measures where any one individual is treated differently from the rest of us. But in the case of political candidates -- specifically legitimate Presidential candidates -- I'd prefer to see their attackers or assassins sent to prison for life than a set term. It's not just a man who was shot -- it was an attack on our political system, for voters lost the opportunity to cast judgment on Wallace and his ideals, and thus those ideals retained some measure of legitimacy that may have been repudiated had we had the opportunity to "shoot him down in the ballot box." By the same token, I vehemently oppose Sirhan's release.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM
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9. Very well stated
As much as I abhore most of what Wallace sttod for, a political assasination attempt is an assault on all ideas and ideals.

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM
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10. Maryland law was probably a lot different in 1972.
Bremer was kind of a nut. I guess he's been stalking Nixon also.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM
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11. I agree completely.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM
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12. I'd agree if anyone had died.
As it is, he did serve a steeper sentence than most. Technically, this guy pulled a weapon and wounded four people...he didn't kill anyone. If you or I had done that to Joe Average, we'd probably spend 10-15 years in prison for it. This person spent double that time in prison.

I would support mandatory life sentences for those who actually kill political figures for political reasons, but not for wounding them. The punishment must fit the crime.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:37 PM
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13. Well it was just an accident that Wallace did not die so I don't see the
distinction between actually killing and seriously wounding. The act was the same so the punishment should be the same for both imo. Wallace certainly could easily have died and the attack probably did shorten his life.
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NekoChris Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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14. The difference is..
One way he's dead and one he's not. Pretty clear cut.

If you TRY to rob a bank for 10,000 and end up with 10, I promise the sentance will probably be a lot lighter.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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16. More to the point if you try and end up with nothing
you have 'attempted armed robbery' not 'armed robbery', just as Bremer was put in for attempted murder and not murder.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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19. I know how the law treats it. I just think from a justice point of view - the
crime is essentially the same and should be treated the same. Also I have to wonder if it is safe for Bremer to be out on the streets. I guess we will find out.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:19 AM
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35. Bremer Stalked Other Political Candidates

Pictures of him in the crowds were published after the Wallace shooting.

Shooting a presidential candidate is a hell of a lot different than gunplay at a corner liquor store; such shootings roil the entire political fabric of the nation. And given the fact that most assassinations have been aimed at Democrats, I wonder about your "Cut Him Some Slack" attitude towards Bremer. Why should Bremer be given bonus points because his bullets failed to kill Wallace immediately?

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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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17. And Sirhan Sirhan
who was, IMVHO, another patsy, still "stews in his juices"???????????
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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28. I completely understand your point of view, but...
if we all continue to complain about how politicians work for us and are no more special than the average guy, then they shouldn't get any special treatment more so than anyone else.

He served his time.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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31. Forty years in prison is enough for almost anyone
With the exception of very tightly defined sociopaths and perhaps some predicate murderers, nobody should really serve more than 30 years, in my view. The person 30 years later is a different person. These monstrous 40, 50, 60 year prison terms are inhumane. They're also functionally self-defeating, since people are much more willing now to shoot a police officer or other witnesses if they're going to do 50 years anyway. What's the difference. We've reached diminishing returns on the whole "tough on crime" business. The sentences are no longer deterrents to crime. They're now motivational factors in more violent crime.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:20 PM
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39. Ya'know, you make a really good point, one which should be
stressed and brought to the upper part of a priorities list for a mature, liberal democracy.

We have achieved some measure of success at curbing the strong, human need to kill somebody. This need shows up as the revenge part of the equation leading to punishment and, imo, a deep-seated part of whatever it is that we refer to as "closure."

That curbing of a revenge instinct is what led most of the Iraqi army to shuck its uniforms, lay down its weapons and walk home. They trusted us, at least to some degree, to treat them humanely and not make revenge killing and revenge torture a central part of our policy.

I'm afraid it all comes as a package. The only way to succeed in creating a world that even looks mildly like a liberal utopia is all at once. No gradualism, no creeping change, as MLK jr. pointed out so eloquently.

There can only be two gears, I think: full speed ahead or stopped dead.
The payoff is just too great and the enormity of failure too devastating for the future of humanity to ever accept compromise.

Prison sentences need to mean something and somehow we need to find a way to coax ourselves back from revenge's abyss...
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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15. Bremer and Sirhan should be considered as possible manchurian candidate
Taking out Wallace and Kennedy appeared to solve issues for the cabal and should be considered part of the 'way too convenient' events of modern history.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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20. from the OP to BS conspiracy theories in 8 posts, not bad...
:rofl:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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18. I remember it very well. I agree with you.
Creepy guy in sunglasses. George Wallace was a racist thug, but something of a populist. You never - no, never - see a far right corporate power broker like Cheney or Bush even have an attempt made on them (that includes Gerald Ford - different era and a different GOP). JFK, MLK, Bobby - even George - shot, though. I remember them all like they happened yesterday. An attempted political assassination is a different ballgame. I think he should stay in for the full 53 years.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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23. Agreed, always the left. And why are they releasing him NOW ? n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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24. Not true about rightie 'corporate power brokers' - Reagan was shot!
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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25. RE: reagan was shot
Yeah, the affable idiot took a round.... and WHO would've become POTUS if St. Ronnie had bought it?
Can't remember.... begins with a "B" though </sarcasm>

--MAB
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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21. As far as I'm concerned Wallace died of his wounds
26 years after he was shot and this piece of crap Bremer should be tried for 1st degree murder.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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22. My thoughts exactly...
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NekoChris Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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29. Do you know many people..
..who are documented as having died from gunshots 26 years after the shot occured?

I'm guessing no.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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30. I don't know how many
but it has happened.

PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 13 — William J. Barnes shot and partly paralyzed a Philadelphia police officer in 1966, and he served 20 years for it and related offenses.

Matt Rourke/Associated Press
Rosalyn Barclay Harrison at the August funeral of her brother Walter T. Barclay Jr., a former police officer who died of an infection that a prosecutor said stemmed from being shot in 1966.

But last month, 41 years after the shooting, the district attorney filed new charges of murder after the officer, Walter T. Barclay Jr., died of an infection she says stems from the shooting. Mr. Barnes, now 71, was sent back to prison.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/us/19philadelphia.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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dingaling Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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26. The law is the law is the law.
Politicians and corporations being treated differently is what got this country into trouble in the first place. He served his sentence. The law says that he needs to be released. Just because he tried to kill a political figure thirty years ago doesnt mean he should be kept in jail forever. It also doesnt mean he will try to kill again.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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27. So.....Is This Guy Eligible To Carry Firearms Again?

Some of our gun activists down in the DU Gungeon maintain that a released felon, regardless of the nature of his crimes, should have his sacred Second Amendment rights restored. And no, I'm not making this up.

Hey, it's the campaign season---anybody up for Mr. Bremer celebrating his freedom by getting another pistol or two?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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32. dupe
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:38 PM
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33. An interesting sidebar re: Nixon's plumbers & their criminal mentality...
...this is not widely reported but:

When they first heard of Wallace being shot by a guy from Milwaukee....Nixon and his gang of plumbers dispatched some men to get to Bremer's apartment and plant George McGovern campaign literature in his apartment.
But the FBI got there first and the plan had to be scrapped.

i only bring this up to show that the GOP election operatives have drenched thelselves in evil for decades,,,, then, and now.

as Yogi Berra used to say, "You could look it up."
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:25 PM
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36. Shooter Of George Wallace Is Free
Source: WJZ Baltimore

HAGERSTOWN, Md. (WJZ/AP) ― Five shots likely changed the fate of the nation and left presidential candidate and Alabama Governor George Wallace paralyzed for life, ending his bid for the White House.

"I just jumped on top of him. He had a big wound down here," said Cornelia Wallace, the wife of George Wallace. "I rode in the ambulance with him. As soon as he got there, they took him to the emergency room."

Mike Hellgren reports Arthur Bremer, the janitor from Wisconsin who pulled the trigger on May 16, 1972 in Laurel, spent the rest of the next 35 years in custody in Maryland.

That's until now. Just before sunrise Friday, he left the prison outside of Hagerstown that he called home for years.

"This is not parole. This is not discretionary. This is mandatory by operation of law," said David Blumberg, chairman of the Maryland Parole Commission.



Read more: http://wjz.com/local/alabama.governor.bremer.2.563592.html
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:25 PM
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37. They flew Wallace to a hospital 7 doors down from my house
The entire neighborhood was blocked off from traffic. My brother was protesting against Wallace at the earlier rally near our house.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:25 PM
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38. duplicate topic
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