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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:34 AM
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9/11 Firefighters and Family Members Plot Anti-Giuliani Ad Campaign
Source: ABC News

A group of 9/11 firefighters and victims' family members with eyes on derailing Republican Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign is close to a decision on forming an entity that would run issue ads in key early nominating states.

"TV made him a hero, and we'll use TV to take him down," New York Fire Chief Jim Riches told ABC News.

The final decision about the formation of an outside entity will happen sometime within the next few weeks after the group finalizes its plans at a meeting scheduled for after Thanksgiving. So far, though, under Riches' leadership, the group has sought legal guidance and help from political consultants.

If the group decides to move forward, it would set up a 527 committee -- or something similar to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which in 2004 helped sink Democratic Sen. John Kerry's White House bid.

This Monday, the firefighters and family members are holding a meeting at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire hoping to spread the word about what they say is Giuliani's "egregious" use of 9/11 for political gain.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3881195&page=1



Go FDNY!
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:46 AM
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1. Rudy
I live here on Long Island and I only wish they would save the ammunition, and let him be the rethug candidate. IMHO we can beat him easier then McCain or Rummy rommy.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:56 AM
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2. Good point!
Maybe that's what they will do as such a veture costs a lot and takes time. The strategy team no doubt will address that thought. Don't
hesitate,send them an email.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:03 AM
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:36 AM
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4. Please explain the "Jew"liani. I thought he is Catholic.

Or are you just a lousy speller?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:22 AM
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5. "Plot"? Not a slanted headline at all.
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 07:32 AM by Algorem

Plot \Plot\, v. t. To plan; to scheme; to devise; to contrive secretly. ``Plotting an unprofitable crime.'' --Dryden. ``Plotting now the fall of others.'' --Milton

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)



Plot \Plot\ (plt), v. i.

1. To form a scheme of mischief against another, especially against a government or those who administer it; to conspire. --Shak.

The wicked plotteth against the just. --Ps. xxxvii. 12.

2. To contrive a plan or stratagem; to scheme.

The prince did plot to be secretly gone. --Sir H. Wotton.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)


http://www.dictionary.net/plot




Plot \Plot\, n.

1. Any scheme, stratagem, secret design, or plan, of a complicated nature, adapted to the accomplishment of some purpose, usually a treacherous and mischievous one; a conspiracy; an intrigue; as, the Rye-house Plot.

I have overheard a plot of death. --Shak.

O, think what anxious moments pass between The birth of plots and their last fatal periods! --Addison.

2. A share in such a plot or scheme; a participation in any stratagem or conspiracy.

And when Christ saith, Who marries the divorced commits adultery, it is to be understood, if he had any plot in the divorce. --Milton.

3. Contrivance; deep reach of thought; ability to plot or intrigue.

``A man of much plot.'' --Denham.

4. A plan; a purpose. ``No other plot in their religion but serve God and save their souls.'' --Jer. Taylor.

5. In fiction, the story of a play, novel, romance, or poem, comprising a complication of incidents which are gradually unfolded, sometimes by unexpected means.

If the plot or intrigue must be natural, and such as springs from the subject, then the winding up of the plot must be a probable consequence of all that went before. --Pope.

Syn: Intrigue; stratagem; conspiracy; cabal; combination; contrivance.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:08 AM
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6. Swiftboaters for 9-11.
Seems to be acceptable karma for what the rethugs did to Kerry in '04 but this time, the campaign will be based on truth, abject truth.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:11 AM
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7. The man is Scum... so they shouldnt have much trouble getting a good one together.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:18 AM
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8. Ghouliani will lose just by being himself
although the Riches have a more personal ax to grind

also from your link:

Riches, who lost his firefighter son Jimmy in the World Trade Center's north tower, said, "We don't want him running on 9/11 or the bodies of all these dead people or my dead son saying that he did a great job that day."

He and other members of the anti-Giuliani group claim 9/11 first responders were given bad radios and that that prevented them from hearing evacuation orders when the World Trade Center buildings were about to collapse. They also contend Giuliani rushed cleanup work and misled people about air quality at Ground Zero, where recovery workers, including Riches, say they contracted illnesses.
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