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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:08 PM
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Obama, Clinton turn battle to New Hampshire (MSM ignores Edwards)
Source: Reuters

PORTSMOUTH, N.H., Jan 4 (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama, fresh from a dramatic victory in Iowa, took his presidential campaign to New Hampshire on Friday, where he hopes to deal a potential knock-out blow to one-time front-runner Hillary Clinton next week.

Clinton, the New York senator and former first lady who was forced into a disappointing third in Thursday's Iowa caucuses behind Obama and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, suddenly finds herself in a possible must-win situation in next Tuesday's New Hampshire primary.

Obama, an Illinois senator seeking to become the first black U.S. president, quickly tried to take advantage of his Iowa victory.

"New Hampshire, if you give me the same chance as Iowa gave me last night, I truly believe that I will be president of the United States of America," Obama told about 1,000 cheering supporters in Portsmouth.

For Republicans, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's come-from-behind win over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in Iowa on Thursday forced Romney into a scramble to hold on to New Hampshire where he faces a strong challenge from Arizona Sen. John McCain.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN0427694320080104?sp=true



Edwards came in ahead of Clinton - why does this headline not state the race is not between "obama and Clinton"?

:argh:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:23 PM
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1. I Posted Something Earlier Today About This... I Wanted To Know If
it would be a good idea to write any MSM we could, and I mean lots and lots of us and let them know how we feel. But not much response so I don't know. I wrote them myself, but I'm only ONE person.

There IS and ALWAYS has been the assumption, and spoken by well known journalists that the D. C. Elites hate John Edwards, and big corporations are also not thrilled with him.... SOOOOOOOOOOOOO you can SEE how POWER works.

What I DON'T understand is how MSM is giving Obama all this praise about him NOT being part of Washington, etc. He's taken a great deal of money from insurance, medical and pharma companies, but yet PEOPLE don't think he has!

There was a post here that showed just WHO took how much... Obama was up there a lot of the time!
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:29 PM
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2. Look, you know perfectly well that Iowa was far more important to Edwards
than it was to Clinton and the fact is they tied. You can talk about that .3% that separated them, but the truth is it was do or die for Edwards and he didn't do. Clinton has huge support almost everywhere else in the country. Edwards doesn't have spit.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:56 PM
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3. I venture to say...a lot of people disagree with you about this.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:21 PM
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4. And I venture to say a lot of people are completely wrong.
DU is not a particularly great indicator of the Democratic Party much less the country.
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:06 PM
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5. My own limited experience with people in my life
Republicans, Independents and Democrats, is that Edwards seems to be a consensus candidate. My reformed republican brother likes him alot. I think he can unify and draw people from outside the party to vote for him. Hillary, not so much. Obama, maybe.

I like John Edwards more and more, having drifted over from supporting Obama.

The mainstream media and big corporations seem to be genuinely afraid of Edwards as evidenced by the complete lack of coverage and attention he is getting for beating one of their choices.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 04:55 AM
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6. Only highlights the "corporate candidates"
The media made a big deal that Romney spent over 6 million in Iowa. But Obama bought his election for 10 Million! Does anybody think he's "changing course"?
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 07:43 AM
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7. Corporate controlled Democratic party is afraid of Edwards independence
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:21 AM
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8. The conventional wisdom is that Edwards is done.
Edwards "shot his wad" in IA, and he doesn't have a chance in NH, and will quit the race soon.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:37 AM
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9. maybe you should go to the source for that info - as you and the
"conventional wisdom" are off the mark.

http://www.johnedwards.com/

seems he's gearing up for bigger and better things.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:45 AM
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12. A little late for "gearing up," isn't it, UpinArms?
He's got no organization or money or standing in the polls in other states.

His strategy was to make his win in Iowa provide these things in other states. He lost his lead in the polls in August, and he's been struggling with that losing strategy ever since.

I think he will stay in until Feb 5. But he'll be "also ran" in most of the primaries until then.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:58 AM
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14. dear robcon -
I do so apologize for my poor choice of word that you jumped to attack.

Please go to the website address that I gave you (as I am way too exhausted to copy all those links that you won't click on anyway - since one click was too hard to do).

You will see there the organization, the momentum the planning that has gone into the entire campaign that will span the nation.

Sorry that you appear to be lazy.

sincerely,

UpInArms
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:03 AM
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15. Lazy? I don't read the campaign spin to know whether Edwards has a broader plan.
His skeleton crew in other states, and "no" spending strategy beyond Iowa has been well known for months. What his campaign says after his linchpin Iowa strategy failed is sad, since they've been acting in the opposite way since June.

Edwards' website is trying to salvage some measure of morale-boosting momentum from his devastating loss in Iowa. It's what any candidate who hasn't (yet) quit the campaign would do.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:45 AM
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11. Did they say the same about Clinton when he didn't take first in IA? n/t
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:48 AM
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13. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Clinton did not base his strategy of spending every dime he had on Iowa, in order to obtain momentum, volunteers and money for other primaries after his "win" there. That's what Edwards did.

His loss is far more devastating than Hillary Clinton's loss (or Bill Clinton's loss in '92) because they didn't put all their eggs in the Iowa basket.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:42 AM
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10. POST a comment to their blog: link
blogs.reuters.com/trail08/
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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16. Obama and Clinton turn battle to New Hampshire [where is Edwards in this headline?]
Source: reuters

Obama and Clinton turn battle to New Hampshire

By Mark Egan and Claudia Parsons 2 hours, 59 minutes ago

PORTSMOUTH, New Hampshire (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama, fresh from a dramatic victory in Iowa, took his presidential campaign to New Hampshire on Friday, where he hopes to deal a potential knock-out blow to one-time front-runner Hillary Clinton next week.

Clinton, the New York senator and former first lady who was forced into a disappointing third in Thursday's Iowa caucuses behind Obama and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, suddenly finds herself in a possible must-win situation in next Tuesday's New Hampshire primary.

Obama, an Illinois senator seeking to become the first black U.S. president, quickly tried to take advantage of his Iowa victory.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080105/pl_nm/usa_politics_dc;_ylt=AngK9U2KtRvxS3nyz7oasQ6s0NUE
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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17. on abc (ABCess) nightly news, tonight
they had exclusive segments on obama, hillary, huckabee and mccain.

edwards name was mentioned once.

geez, he only came in second, and BEAT hillary. but they are going to marginalize him because he wants to take on the corporations.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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26. Brian Williams did not even mention Edwards name once.
Richardson either.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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18. There's room for only one non-Hillary
and Iowa picked the one they thought would be the best one. If New Hampshire says the same thing, it is over, we are next going to states where African-Americans are a significant part of the Democratic voting majority.


Hillary will NEVER get votes from people who vote Repuke occasionally, Edwards probably won't, but Obama might. Unfortunately, for a party to win the White House, they have got to win the middle of the country, as well as their base. If the Rethugs nominate the Huckster, he will not even get their base, at least not the non-fundie part of it.

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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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19. Here's the deal (try to follow)
Clinton is in first place in the polls in New Hampshire. Obama is close on her heels, coming off his win in Iowa. John Edwards is a distant third in NH, and his (big) 8 point loss to Obama and virtual tie with Clinton (1/4 of one percentage points separated them) in Iowa means he gets no bounce there. He can at best come in third. And that means he's done.

I truly hate to say this. I haven't wanted to burst the bubble. But it's the hard facts. John Edwards is over, and the media knows this.

And even at this he still gets prime air time on Olberman and elsewhere. But the Edwardites whine and moan that he gets no face time. He gets no press. Well, it ain't true. He gets more press than a candidate in his position should. But this is New Hampshire: he has no chance to win there, from all indications. When you don't have a chance to win, you don't get a lot of press. The stories right now are the person who won in Iowa and the person who is ahead in New Hampshire. That's show biz. Deal with it.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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21. It's TWO states ...
All the other candidates will be gone. There are much bigger states with many more electoral votes coming up. No doubt Edwards is now trailing but by no means is he out.

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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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23. In what other states would he be viable?
He is super-duper behind in South Carolina ... his native state. Where the hell else could he win? California? New York? No chance.

Hillary Clinton has a chance in those large states on Super Tuesday (though if she loses NH and SC, not so much).

Edwards has no organization, little money. The chances of a turnaround for him are slim to none at this point.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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24. Yep and all those polls were nuts on in IA, huh...Its attempted media manipulation
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Clanfear Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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20. Edwards has no foundation in N.H.
Or anywhere else for that matter. His good showing in Iowa will not make a difference. The groundwork for these coming primaries was laid months and months ago.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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22. Elizabeth Edwards was right
The MSM is ignoring Edwards.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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25. For the mainstream media Edwards is he whose name must not be spoken. n/t
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:47 PM
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27. Edwards Is Under the Radar--Our Stealth Candidate
and that's the best place to be, IMO. Cover from both the cat fight in our own party, and the dogs of war in the GOP.
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