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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:13 AM
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Bush: Iran is leading sponsor of terror
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:26 AM by maddezmom
Source: AP

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates - President Bush said Sunday that Iran is threatening the security of the world, and that the United States and Arab allies must join together to confront the danger "before it's too late."

Bush said Iran funds terrorist extremists, undermines peace in Lebanon, sends arms to the Taliban, seeks to intimidate its neighbors with alarming rhetoric, defies the United Nations and destabilizes the entire region by refusing to be open about its nuclear program.

"Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terror," Bush said in a speech he delivered about mid-way through his eight-day Mideast trip that began with a renewed push for an Israeli-Palestinian peace pact — an accord he said whose "time has come."

"Iran's actions threaten the security of nations everywhere," Bush said. "So the United States is strengthening our long-standing security commitments with our friends in the Gulf, and rallying friends around the world to confront this danger before it is too late."

~snip~

"This new era is being built with the understanding that power is a trust that must be exercised with the consent of the governed," Bush said.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bush_mideast



this trip was never about Peace in the Middle East

and an earlier headline:

Bush to reach out to Iranians from across the Gulf
by Laurent Lozano
2 hours, 15 minutes ago



ABU DHABI (AFP) - US President George W. Bush arrived in the United Arab Emirates on Sunday for a visit in which he was set to reach out to ordinary Iranians across the Gulf in a new swipe at the Tehran government.

Bush was to deliver a keynote speech in the Emirati capital Abu Dhabi telling Iranians, for whom the UAE is their main trading partner, that there is a better alternative to the current regime, his spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters.

~snip~

But in an embarrassing climbown that was gleefully seized on by Tehran, the Pentagon admitted that a sound recording it had released of a voice threatening to blow up the US vessels may not have emanated from the Iranian vessels.

The Navy Times reported that US navy experts now believe the threatening voice may have been that of a local heckler known as the "Filipino Monkey" who frequently interrupts ship-to-ship radio traffic with insulting interventions.

Tehran accused Washington on Sunday of distorting the incident "to fool the region" during Bush's visit and called on US officials to apologise.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080113/wl_mideast_afp/mideastusdiplomacyuae_080113100325
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:17 AM
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1. nope, sorry, chimpy... the US is, and has been for decades
more people die in the way of our 'liberation' than for any other reason.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:32 AM
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9. America doesn't kill people. We "Posthumously Liberate" them. n/t
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:20 AM
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2. Give it a rest, Chimpolini.
You have NO credibility. Zero.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:32 AM
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10. World's biggest War criminal since Stalin
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7 of 11 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:23 AM
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36. Is it really fair to compares Stalin to Bush
Stalin was better!

Stalin at least told the truth so that makes him better then Bush. When he said he was going to kill you he did. Bush will insist he was trying to liberate you and bring democracy to you right before that 5000 pound bomb flew through your front door.

He's a total lying piece of shit.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:16 PM
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60. You have a point
Yes :-) :-)
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:20 AM
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3. The Bush is the leading sponsor of terrorists.
Without Terrorist, the bush would never have been able to give our national wealth over to contractors like Blackwater and Halliburton. Without terrorists, he would never have been able to attack Iraq and he would have been just a one term president. He would be nothing without terrorists.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:17 AM
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61. Agree
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 12:22 AM by lisainmilo
I knew he was not there for peace!!!! Come on.... this guy has created more terror than the terrorist! I knew the pot was stirring. He will continue to stir the pot.....

Edit: (will this make McCains' candidacy "appear" needed so he can combat the terrorist) isn't getting easier to see through the their muck?
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:22 AM
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4. bush diplomacy is always so helpful at achieving world peace.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:25 AM
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5. As they have been, along with Saudi Arabia, since long before 2001.
And yet we invaded Iraq instead.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:26 AM
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6. Sounds to me like he is definitely setting the stage for US military action
against Iran.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:40 AM
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11. I agree - lessee - troops in Afghanistan and Iraq - takes care of east & west
.
.
.

Billions of dollars in Warships in the Gulf

Takes care of the south

Turkey in the North? - not sure

But will China and Russia sit still on this one?

I don't think so

scary . . .
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:30 AM
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7. "this trip was never about Peace in the Middle East" - exactly
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'nuff said
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:31 AM
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8. Commander Blowmonkey is determined to bring on The Rapture before he leaves office. n/t
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:47 AM
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12. Is there no end to this asshole's reign?? Begone, already, you LIAR.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:53 AM
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13. Sorry George, the #1 exporter of anti western thought is Saudi Arabia
And the # 1 supplier of Sunni fighters in Iraq is Saudi Arabia

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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:56 AM
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29. More than three quarters of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 09:57 AM by Frank Cannon
But this is how Bush treats them.

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:00 AM
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14. And the chimpster is the worlds biggest producer of Abu Ghraib
type "incidents". The worlds leader in extraordinary rendition followed up by a stay in the gulag, torture free of charge. The worlds largest provider of military hardware. The world's least likely to protect America borders. The leader least likely to protect American citizens from natural disasters.... and the beat goes on.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:04 AM
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15. ah ah-with the consent of the governed! he says--YUP
"This new era is being built with the understanding that power is a trust that must be exercised with the consent of the governed," Bush said.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:42 PM
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59. The hypocrisy of this war criminal * is shocking.
This, from the domestic enemy who said the Constitution is just a damn old piece of paper!

Who does he think he is fooling?
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:05 AM
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16. that's not even factually correct
Iran's "sponsoring of terror" is nowhere near the sponsoring that occurs in places like Pakistan, afghanistan, and even Saudi Arabia. let me know what hizbullah has done recently to match Al-Qaeda or other groups in the world.

And if we're going to talk about historical sponsoring of terror and add it all up, Iran can't even begin to match the United States in the last 100 years of sponsoring right-wing militias, military governments, and dictatorial regimes all throughout the world. Pick one client state and compare with Iran's sponsoring of Hizbullah or any other group.

do the comparisons:

Iran vs. U.S. sponsoring of Nicaragua's Contras
Iran vs. U.S. sponsoring of Batista (Cuba)
Iran vs. U.S. sponsoring of Suharto (Indonesia)
Iran vs. U.S. sponsoring of Marcos (Phillipines)
Iran vs. U.S. sponsoring of Pinochet (Chile)

etc. etc. etc.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:22 AM
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17. this is only slightly more inflammatory Hillary's rhetoric.....
both are neocon approved...

http://www.senate.gov/~clinton/news/statements/record.cfm?id=268474

<snip>

This is a moment of great difficulty for Israel and great peril for Israel, for the U.S. and for free and democratic nations. Israel is confronting many of the toughest challenges in her history, in a neighborhood that is less secure than ever. At this moment of peril, what is vital is that we stand by our friend and our ally and we stand by our own values. Israel is a beacon of what's right in a neighborhood overshadowed by the wrongs of radicalism, extremism, despotism and terrorism. We need only look to one of Israel's greatest threats: namely, Iran. Make no mistake, Iran poses a threat not only to Israel, but to the entire Middle East and beyond, including the U.S. I don't need to remind this group that about a month ago the Iranian government hosted a conference in Tehran whose sole purpose was to deny the Holocaust.

Now that conference was beyond the pale of international discourse and acceptable behavior and we must not treat this situation as business as usual. The gathering was hosted by the leader of the member of a United Nations state and by a leader that has raised serious international concerns over his country's nuclear ambitions and who has called for Israel to be wiped off the map.

To deny the Holocaust places Iran's leadership in company with the most despicable bigots and historical revisionists. It is an insult, not only to a memory of the millions of Jews who suffered and died in the Shoah but also to the troops of the U.S. and its allies, who in the fight to liberate Europe from Nazism bore witness to the reality of the Holocaust.

Such comments add greater urgency to the necessity to doing everything we can to deny nuclear weapons to Iran. The regime's pro-terrorist, anti-American, anti-Israeli rhetoric only underscores the urgency of our response to the threat we face.

U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal. We cannot, we should not, we must not, permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons. And in dealing with this threat as I have said for a very long time, no option can be taken off the table.

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:31 AM
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18. They want a war so bad it hurts......
They're going to be the death of us all....
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:14 AM
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23. War comes in handy during an election season....
He used it in 2004 and it worked. This way, he's grated two wishes; more war and another Republican president.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:47 AM
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19. the BFEE is the leader n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:00 AM
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20. AP has updated with a new headline: Bush says US, allies must confront Iran
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:03 AM
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21. If an Iranian so much as burps in Shrub's direction, he's going to bomb them.
Add his general insanity to the Republican tradition of blowing things up around election time and we're screwed.
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southerncross48 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:08 AM
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22. Stone Cold Killer
Bush is nothing more than a stone cold psycopathic killer, on a massive scale!!!!!!!!!!!!
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:27 AM
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25. Absolutely one hundred percent correct!
He is a psychopath there is no doubt. Him and cheney MUST be removed from office before they do ignite WWIII.

His goal of world domination cannot be reached so world annihilation must be substituted.

Welcome to DU
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:22 AM
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24. Somebody
slap a muzzle on the shrub before he does start WWIII.

Listen up Congress! There is no more time to lose. You MUST impeach bush and cheney NOW. They are going to start WWIII unless top brass of the military lawfully refuse orders from bush. We can only hope that they do because you are walking in step with this maniac that you call president.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:31 AM
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26. Deleted message
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:12 PM
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39. Of course not
"It's only terrorism is the other guy does it!"
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:43 AM
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27. Imperialism USA Bush style

2008 - Time for regime change at home!

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:56 AM
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28. Someone better get a firm grip on his reins
He's chomping at the bit to break free and get his war on. Again. As in this would be the third war he's started during his two terms as president. As in we've seen the signs twice before and should be able to nip this one in the bud. Right?

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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:12 AM
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30. I know this is repetitive, given the other posts here, but America, under Bush
is the leading state sponsor of terror. Bush is a raving lunatic! He should STFU!
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:14 AM
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31. Pot, Kettle, etc...
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:26 AM
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32. K/R
Of course it's about Iran! He has done trillions to defeat peace! Now it's PEACE?

WHAT IS THE MISSION? ~ "I just want you to know that when we talk about war we're really talking about peace." George W. Bush

"War is Peace"
-Big Brother in George Orwell's 1984
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:32 AM
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33. Bush is hell bent in bombing/attacking Iran before he leaves office and Hillary
still supports a vote for war with Iran!
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:40 AM
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34. The one and only vote for war with Iran
has already taken place. Incredibly, all those Democrats who were fooled by Bush re. Iraq were fooled again.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:33 PM
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42. Emperor Hillarious
= 4 more years of the same war mongering police state.
IMO to the neo-cons she represents a win win situation.
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humus Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:14 PM
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47. Ask Hillary
I hope someone will ask her at the next CNN cafe (where citzens ask questions of candidates)
Why is Iran "anti-U.S." ?
I would be interested in hearing her response.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:42 AM
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35. Bushdick is hellbent on starting a war with Iran. Where are the rest of the
world leaders on this matter?
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:21 PM
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37. Trying to dump dollars for euros as fast as possible, would be my guess.
I see grave similarities between the "leaders" on the cusp of the US civil war, and especially, the First World War re: Bush's statesmanship and the lack of "moral authority" to denounce him.

Remember, Bush sees himself as Churchill, albeit without the aid of liquor, sanity, or language skills. In short, there is no Vaclav Havel today, as Mr. Havel is in retirement. Tom Paine is dead and would be attacked by the MSM for formenting atheism and urging a class war.

Lenin, Stalin, and Mao pretty much did the funeral orations for Marx and Engels. What is left? Brittany Spears and Ryan Seacrest for the masses?
Our school system urges the kids to memorize data just long enough to spit it back out onto a standardized test with no critical learning skills developed, no demand for composition or research skills and no inkling of the fact that some rivers do, indeed, flow north to empty to the sea. Is there even time for reading? It seems that it is a burdensome chore that undergraduates can't be bothered to perform, much less to read deeply or on the fringes of the topic, why should those in high school be expected to read, isn't that what teachers are for?

The last good debate in the US Senate was Byrd facing Warner several years ago on the Patriot Act.

Kant declared in "What Is Enlightenment?" that men and women were lazy, intellectually and morally in Konigsburg of old, seeking another to do their thinking for them. Well, we have had our "experts" parrot one another and the press to tell us how successful they were at parroting, and this is where we have failed. The US is bloated physically, politically, and militarily.

All Empires fall, and nothing can stop it. Some rise again out of the ashes, and the rise may be the most exciting time to live, but for those witnessing the end of empire, it is most unsettling, as our guides have been proven blind shams.
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:04 PM
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38. WRONG, BUSH
YOU ARE THE LEADING SPONSOR OF TERROR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. YOU ARE THE LEADING CAUSE OF TERROR WORLDWIDE.

YOU ARE A TERRORIST OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:12 PM
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40. American people: B*$h is leading sponsor of terror.
No brakes, no brakes, no brakes!
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:15 PM
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41. Bang those drums!
I guess since our "Congressional Leadership" couldn't be bothered to remove Bushco from office, we'll just have to foot the bill for another war, and another republican president.

*sigh*

And I was so hoping to have HRC win so that I could laugh at all the people who said she would bring us something different.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:47 PM
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43. Why does is seem to me that the Middle East is the wrong place for
the killer Chimp to be beating his war drums? Does this not seem odd to anyone else? Is the UAE anti-Iran too?
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:50 PM
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44. Sorry, *Dumbass,
that would be the U.S. thanks to YOU! :mad:
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:52 PM
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45. Bush: worlds leading sponsor of ridicules propaganda.
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:05 PM
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46. funny,
i thought we were...at least by body count anyway.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:41 PM
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48. Shut up and go home to Crawford!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:27 PM
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49. Bush Urges Arab Allies to Confront Iran
Source: NYT

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates — President Bush urged wary Persian Gulf allies on Sunday to rally against Iran “before it is too late,” even as the International Atomic Energy Agency announced that the country had agreed to answer outstanding questions about its nuclear programs within four weeks.

In an address to government and business leaders here, Mr. Bush focused not only on what the United States suspects are Iran’s nuclear ambitions but also its suspected support for Islamic groups and militants in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. He called Iran’s government “the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism” and accused it of imposing repression and economic hardship at home.

“Iran’s actions threaten the security of nations everywhere,” Mr. Bush said. “So the United States is strengthening our longstanding security commitments with our friends in the gulf and rallying friends around the world to confront this danger before it is too late.”

The announcement about Iran’s pledge of cooperation on its nuclear program, however, could undercut efforts to build international support against Iran. It came after a visit to Iran this weekend by Mohamed ElBaradei, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the United Nations’ nuclear monitoring agency, who met with the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/world/middleeast/13cnd-prexy.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:27 PM
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50. What does he hope to get out of this?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:27 PM
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51. Tribes of Semites against the Persians
bush is going really,really old school..
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:27 PM
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52. "Get bent, you Connecticut yankee preppy deserter oil profiteer, you." - A-rabs
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 04:29 PM by SpiralHawk
"We know what you Pretend Texan Vacation Freaks, and your cabal of corrupt republicon homelander war-profiteering cronies are all about, Commander AWOL Bush.

"So don't come round here peddling your steenkin phony claptrap lies. What do you take us for, a bunch of dumbass, kool-aid guzzling Freepers?"

- A-rabs

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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:41 PM
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53.  Bush: Iran threatens world security
Source: CNN

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- President Bush said Sunday that Iran is threatening the security of the world, and that the United States and Arab allies must join together to confront the danger "before it's too late."
art.bush1.afp.gi.jpg

Bush said Iran funds terrorist extremists, undermines peace in Lebanon, sends arms to the Taliban, seeks to intimidate its neighbors with alarming rhetoric, defies the United Nations and destabilizes the entire region by refusing to be open about its nuclear program.

"Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terror," Bush said in a speech he delivered about mid-way through his eight-day Mideast trip that began with a renewed push for an Israeli-Palestinian peace pact -- an accord he said whose "time has come."

Chiding U.S. allies who have withheld civil liberties, Bush said governments will never build trust by harassing or imprisoning candidates and protesters. But his rebuke was general, and he did not single out any U.S. partner in the region for oppressive practices.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/13/bush.mideast.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview



Because the trampling of civil liberties is the chimp's job.

God, what a moran.

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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:41 PM
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54. I just blew soda-pop all over my monitor ... thanks
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:41 PM
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55. Is any more proof needed
that the chimp has lost all touch with reality?
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:41 PM
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56. World: Bush threatens world security
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Acumensch Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:29 PM
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57. "harassing or imprisoning candidates and protesters."
"Chiding U.S. allies who have withheld civil liberties, Bush said governments will never build trust by harassing or imprisoning candidates and protesters." You mean like this:

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8NlCPGhweFE
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:33 PM
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58. He's really whipping up the war fever (or trying to)
It's hard to believe that he doesn't have a fresh war on deck.
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jmb110777 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:57 AM
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62. I Agree.
Seems like he's always got something cookin.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:03 AM
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63. "power is a trust that must be exercised with the consent of the governed"?
*cough*
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