Hillary promises Iraq pullout in 2 months

Source: Asian Age

Washington, Jan. 14: Setting a firm time-frame for the first time for a pullout of troops from Iraq, Democrat presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has said that her government will withdraw American soldiers from the embattled nation within 60 days if she comes to power.

"I have said that as soon as I become President, I will ask the Joint Chiefs, secretary of defence, my security advisers to give me a plan to begin withdrawing our troops within 60 days", she said on Meet The Press programme.

Criticising US President George W. Bush’s administration for not "planning" for the troop-withdrawal, the New York Senator said: "Starting on day one of my presidency, we will begin that planning. We will begin to withdraw our troops within 60 days. I think we can take out one to two brigades a month. At the same time, I will put increasing pressure on the Iraqi government. I will engage in a full diplomatic effort to work with the countries in the region and others who have an interest in the stability of Iraq", she said. "As of January 20, 2009," she said, "we will begin to bring our troops out of Iraq. Therefore, I certainly believe it’s in the interests of the Iraqi government and the people of Iraq that a lot of this reconciliation that I’ve been calling for going back four or five years start and actually get implemented now."

Though she defended her vote in the Senate in 2002 on Iraq, Ms Clinton ruled out any further support for the surge if the American commander in Iraq Gen. David Petraeus were to come before Congress in March asking for continued backing of legislators. "No, and here’s why. The surge was certainly explained and rationalised as giving the Iraqi government space and time to make the hard decisions that they needed to make. 2007 was the deadliest year for American troops," Ms Clinton said.


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Nixon used that one to good effect, IIRC. Kept the Vietnam War going for years so he could keep promising to end it.

the logistics is a nightmare.

There is no doubt in my mind that the pentagon has contingency plans for withdrawing under a variety of circumstances, and that the normal defense appropriation could be used to pay for it.

No, we can't order them all out of Iraq by next Tuesday, but that's not what most in the anti-war movement advocate. We want them home as soon as possible, subject to safety concerns, an orderly withdrawal, and so on. More to the point, we want a candidate who will make that commitment rather than using a smoke screen to obfuscate the issue. Clinton's statement lacks only the "light at the end of the tunnel" to make it utterly Nixonian.

Unless you're talking about a Vietnam-style "LET'S GET THE FUCK OUT HERE!" withdrawl, which would be a bit dumb.

How many crimes do we normally allow the criminals to prolong committing in order to avoid too abrupt an ending?

...Both sides use their supporters for their votes and then nothing.

...within 60 days.

Which most likely wouldn't happen right away.

But she could pull out the contractors immediately.

:headbang:
rocknation

the text says she'll have a "plan" to begin withdrawing in 60 days...

The plan, AND a begin of a withdrawl, within 60 days.

They each use numerous phrases like that to give the impression that they would withdraw all, but they still leave forces for "anti-terrorism" and such.

I posted about all this right after the Oct debate where Edwards used his trial skills to force them to fess up.
(some of this is in my journal with links to the debate transcript.)

"combat operations still going on in 2013"

Someone polished this one to a high gloss before they released it.

It would have been easier to vote against sending them over there in the first place, wouldnt it?

GW has already started withdrawl by dialing down the surge. So I guess her policy is at least compareble to bush right?

HRC once again does the neocon shuffle while miming the liberal boogie. :rofl:

Promise 1 Mo (shocked She left a window open)

I say if they? wanted them out - why wait till Bush RAIN is over - propose Something NOW - because going to take YR'S anyways - maybe 1000 yr's if McCain Wins

Why the hell don't she just declare that she is a repug?

Its easier to rape the country under a false label.

I am sick of the stupid why doesn't she do it this or that way and not the other way. Obama gets a free ride and he is always sliding under the rope.

I think you need to gain a memory. Hillary has stabbed us in the back on the iraq war too many times to believe she's going to support a pull out.

This is the only time Hillary ever sounds like a democrat - when she's campaigning. She's attempting to appeal to our ideals right now. But it's too little too late.

Hillary needs to run as a republican now. She's sided with them pretty consistently for 4 years. I hope you start paying closer attention.

probably before you were even born. I don't like obama either. I don't like Hillkary. I do like Kucinich. I do like Edwards.
Is that clear enough for you?
I would like you to check her voting record out and just read some of the threads here. Wake up.

Hillary has said on many times, including during one TV debate, that she was going to have troops in Iraq by the end of her first term.

Triangulation and parsing are Clintonian traits.

like everything else involving her.

But there are elections happening now, so she needs votes, and the nobody is buying the warm-fuzzy stuff about the war. We did all this with VietNam, it's the same rhetoric, the same motivations, all of it. If we get lucky, nobody will buy "plans for a pullout in 60 days", i.e. there will be a plan in 60 days and a pullout at some unspecified later date. If she loses a few more times we may get to "all the troops out in 60 days". Anyway, I can't see how it's a bad things that the discourse is being pulled to the left.

It was my recollection that Bill was focused on the polls, too.

And at the time, it seemed wishy-washy... until we got Bush Jr. who "wouldn't bow to pressure from the polls".

There has to be a happy medium. The polls can't be one's focus, but they also can't be ignored.

Four or five years??? :wtf:

She wouldn't even acknowledge that she made a really shitty vote for 18 months!!!!

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Fall 2007: Hillary's Not Listening Again!

http://www.listenhillary.org/article.php?list=type&type=115

During her speech at last June’s Take Back America Conference, CODEPINK members held up signs saying, “Lead us out of Iraq,” Hillary’s response was, “That’s exactly what I’m trying to do, ladies.”

In September 2007, Hillary Clinton announced via her campaign web site that the number one reason to support her for President was http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/10reasons/?sc=8“To end the war in Iraq.”]

But what exactly does this mean? From our careful reading of Hillary’s statements, her voting record, and media reports, we have come to the conclusion that while Hillary says she wants to end the “war” in Iraq http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10947954">she fully intends, if elected President, to continue the U.S. occupation of that country into her projected second term.[br />
What’s the difference between “war” and “occupation”? Hillary would “end” the war by drawing down the number of combat troops in Iraq, but would continue the U.S. occupation with a limited number of troops, ideally around 50,000, on “enduring” (but not “permanent”) bases to train Iraqi troops, to provide support to the Kurds, and to protect American interests, including the all-important oil fields.

As we have seen from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/hillary-clinton-votes-for_b_66174.html">her recent vote on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on Iran , Hillary plans to have a muscular foreign policy. Bombing Iran is on the table, the continued occupation of Iraq is in the game plan, and corporate interests trump international law.

to "protect our vital national security interests" (OIL). Did she mention that?

I'm not trusting campaign promises from someone who's never been against the iraq war before.

Mr. Obama, let's make it one mouth!

What the heck! As long as you can get more votes!

And to get it over with.

She says she'll begin pulling out in 2 months. The withdrawal process won't be able to finish for 9-12 months at best. Anything happening along that slow painful journey will delay the final pull out by a month or so.

Best bet, the final withdrawals will still be going on three years from now.

but if she can GUARANTEE us that she'll do this, and withdraw ALL American forces, including all bases and other officials, and only leave a diplomatic group to help smooth over U.S. rebuilding aid and embassy issues, she'll get my vote.

That's the only condition I'd vote for Hillary over other candidates. The Iraq War is THE issue of our society.

... it would still take many years to completely get out. A standard infantry brigade used to be 1500-2000 soldiers. Anyone know what a brigade of our modern army consists of?