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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:11 PM
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Ex-9/11 Panel Chief Denies Secret White House Ties
Source: ABC News

The former executive director of the 9/11 Commission denies explosive charges of undisclosed ties to the Bush White House or interference with the panel's report.

The charges are said to be contained in New York Times reporter Philip Shenon's unreleased book, "The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation," according to Max Holland, an author and blogger, and generally confirmed by the book's publisher. Although the book is not slated to hit stores until early next month, Holland says he bought a copy of the audio version at a bookstore. (Attempts to purchase the book, in any format, at the Barnes & Noble across the street from ABC News headquarters were unsuccessful.)

9/11 Commission co-chairs Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton hired former Condoleezza Rice aide Philip Zelikow to be executive director, Zelikow failed to tell them about his role helping Rice set up President George W. Bush's National Security Council in early 2001 and that he was "instrumental" in demoting Richard Clarke, the onetime White House counterterrorism czar who was fixated on the threat from Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, according to Holland's version of Shenon's tome.

"(Zelikow) had laid the groundwork for much of what went wrong at the White House in the weeks and months before September 11. Would he want people to know that?" Shenon writes, according to Holland.

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In his book, Shenon also says that while working for the panel, Zelikow appears to have had private conversations with former White House political director Karl Rove, despite a ban on such communication, according to Holland. Shenon reports that Zelikow later ordered his assistant to stop keeping a log of his calls, although the commission's general counsel overruled him, Holland wrote.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4218157&page=1
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:13 PM
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1. Of course the entire report was doctored and covered up.
It's a total sham.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:15 PM
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7. And blindly accepted by the American populace
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:14 PM
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2. The Report is as good as Toilet Paper
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:17 PM
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3. DU knows that, but as for the rest of the world..
It's still the official document.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:23 AM
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19. not true. outside our borders, most people
still shake their head at what they see is deliberate self-deception and lack of interest in the root causes.

of course, they don't have Paris or Britnee to worry about.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:19 PM
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4. He's right -- the ties to the White House were hardly a secret
Zelikow was Condi Rice's assistant. Who didn't know that?

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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:49 PM
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6. The 911 widows (and us here at DU) knew Zelikow was shady also
This ain't a revelation.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:34 PM
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5. "I did not have corrupt cronyism with that preppy deserter, Commander AWOL." - Zelikow
"Smirk, smirk, smirk." - Zelikow
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:16 PM
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8. kr
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:17 PM
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9. Zelikow bad
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:25 PM
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10. Gee. I wonder how I knew the story would be about Zelikow. n/t
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:42 PM
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11. I heard the Rotary Club of New York...
Jesuit General -> installed Knights of Malta, GIORGIO HUGO BALESTRIERI(GLADIO agent) -> ROTARY CLUB of NEW YORK.

The Rotary Club of New York has an international office inside the UN. BALESTRIERI is Director of that international office.

Do your research on GLADIO first.
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:32 PM
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12. For those who haven't read Zelikow's Wiki entry, here's a snip:
While at Harvard he worked with Ernest May and Richard Neustadt on the use, and misuse, of history in policymaking. They observed, as Zelikow noted in his own words, that "contemporary" history is "defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public's presumptions about its immediate past. The idea of 'public presumption'," he explained, "is akin to William McNeill's notion of 'public myth' but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word 'myth.' Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community."


Read that very carefully.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:12 AM
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14. There's your typical Straussian lying asshole
Noble lies and perpetual war: Leo Strauss, the neo-cons, and Iraq

Are the ideas of the conservative political philosopher Leo Strauss a shaping influence on the Bush administration’s world outlook? Danny Postel interviews Shadia Drury – a leading scholarly critic of Strauss – and asks her about the connection between Plato’s dialogues, secrets and lies, and the United States-led war in Iraq.

SNIP

Danny Postel: You’ve argued that there is an important connection between the teachings of Leo Strauss and the Bush administration’s selling of the Iraq war. What is that connection?

Shadia Drury: Leo Strauss was a great believer in the efficacy and usefulness of lies in politics. Public support for the Iraq war rested on lies about Iraq posing an imminent threat to the United States – the business about weapons of mass destruction and a fictitious alliance between al-Qaida and the Iraqi regime. Now that the lies have been exposed, Paul Wolfowitz and others in the war party are denying that these were the real reasons for the war.

So what were the real reasons? Reorganising the balance of power in the Middle East in favour of Israel? Expanding American hegemony in the Arab world? Possibly. But these reasons would not have been sufficient in themselves to mobilise American support for the war. And the Straussian cabal in the administration realised that.

Danny Postel: The neo-conservative vision is commonly taken to be about spreading democracy and liberal values globally. And when Strauss is mentioned in the press, he is typically described as a great defender of liberal democracy against totalitarian tyranny. You’ve written, however, that Strauss had a “profound antipathy to both liberalism and democracy.”

Shadia Drury: The idea that Strauss was a great defender of liberal democracy is laughable. I suppose that Strauss’s disciples consider it a noble lie. Yet many in the media have been gullible enough to believe it.

How could an admirer of Plato and Nietzsche be a liberal democrat? The ancient philosophers whom Strauss most cherished believed that the unwashed masses were not fit for either truth or liberty, and that giving them these sublime treasures would be like throwing pearls before swine. In contrast to modern political thinkers, the ancients denied that there is any natural right to liberty. Human beings are born neither free nor equal. The natural human condition, they held, is not one of freedom, but of subordination – and in Strauss’s estimation they were right in thinking so.

Praising the wisdom of the ancients and condemning the folly of the moderns was the whole point of Strauss’s most famous book, Natural Right and History. The cover of the book sports the American Declaration of Independence. But the book is a celebration of nature – not the natural rights of man (as the appearance of the book would lead one to believe) but the natural order of domination and subordination.


www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:19 AM
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16. Thank Heavens for Howard Zinn . . .
Though if you sat in your early elementary school classes and learned what we did to native Americans living here, you knew something was up ....

and later, slavery . . .

big clues about what was to come ---

same gene pool ---


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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:46 PM
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13. Yeah, that's believable
Not!

Jackass!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:14 AM
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15. As though Lee Hamilton and Kean didn't know about Zelikow --- !!!
And didn't Keating resign?


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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:29 AM
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17. There is so much more to learn about 9/11 and the coverup.
Remember the Maine?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:07 AM
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18. The truth is hiding in plain sight.
It's been obvious for years (to anyone paying attention) that Zelikow was a neocon stooge. Just read up on his theories of "public presumption" and predictions about "catastrophic terrorism" (links should be on his Wikipedia entry).
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:59 PM
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20. This is the part I like:
"(Zelikow) had laid the groundwork for much of what went wrong at the White House in the weeks and months before September 11. Would he want people to know that?" Shenon writes, according to Holland."

Damn good question.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 06:38 PM
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21. One more nail in the coffin of the idea that the Report was
anything more than an elaborate coverup.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:34 PM
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22. Bill Clinton on the MILHOP/LIHOP issue 1/31/08
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