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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:36 PM Original message |
(San Jose State Univ) suspends blood drives, citing FDA ban on donations by gay men |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. When Shrub and his cronies are finally out on their collective asses,... |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This has nothing to do with Shrub |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The initial ban was imposed in 1985, during the Reagan years. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. More like pressure from the medical community |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Actually, in 2006, the entire blood products industry... |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The tests are not perfect. There is a false negative rate. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. In that case, why collect blood at all? |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Gays, at least men, have a much higher rate of blood borne disease |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
37. You're rationalizing a discriminatory that exists for NO medical reason |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Then sex workers and IV drug users should be treated the same. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Sex workers and IV drug users are banned also. |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. No, they are deferred for twelve months. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Maybe in your state |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. In which case, your state law is less discriminatory. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Sure, but this is also national board and national issue. |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It is interesting that, in spite of the FDA being a national body... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. They don't differ from state to state |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Presumably, then, they differ from organization to organization? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Actually you could make the argument that blood from a known gay person would be safer |
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Brrrp (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Nonsense. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. bullshit...more straight people OVERWHEMLINGLY are positive... |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Are you talking raw numbers or percentages? nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Link -- because I think you're mistaken |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. It really is quite hypocritical |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. It is called lawsuits. They would be sued for any bad blood. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. That si NOT the reason -- and repeating it won't change that |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. That is the reason and attacking it won't change that |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. I used to donate blood and have not done so in 18 years |
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mahatmakanejeeves (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. "I used to donate blood...." |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. you think that rule is odd |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
19. good for him! |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. Banning blood drives is an immoral way to protest this. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. There comes a point |
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Brrrp (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. No there doesn't. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. This is not at that point. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. if people want to donate, there are places to donate |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
29. I can't donate blood because I spent too much time in Britain in the late 80's |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
30. Do gay men have a significantly higher rate of HIV than the general population? |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yes they have increased.. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Wow -- you're already supporting discrimination against gay men? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. no they don't...not for a long time now... |
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raebrek (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
33. I to am banned from donating blood. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
36. Good for them -- this policy is bigoted and illegal and terribly outdated |
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