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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:26 AM
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Judge May Make CIA Torture Memo Public
Source: CBS News/AP

ACLU Lawsuit Prompted A Federal Judge To Examine The Controversial Document

(AP) The CIA must let a judge view a 2002 memo purportedly including waterboarding among interrogation methods to be used on prisoners in U.S. custody so he can decide whether it should be made public, the judge ruled Thursday.

U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein issued the order after he had earlier said the 18-page memo did not have to be turned over to the American Civil Liberties Union because it was protected by attorney-client privilege. The ACLU said it believes the memo includes a section addressing the subject of waterboarding, which simulates drowning.

Hellerstein said he reconsidered his ruling after hearing from both sides again on the subject. The CIA must turn the item over for review on Monday.

Rebekah Carmichael, a spokeswoman for government lawyers representing the CIA, said the government had no immediate comment.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/08/national/main4081847.shtml
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:39 AM
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1. Gee, I sure hope the CIA didn't lose the only copy of the memo
Edited on Fri May-09-08 09:39 AM by SpiralHawk
That would be altogether republicon.
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:44 AM
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2. Good for the judge! We shall see if Exceutive privilege rules on this turn over by the CIA too
Freakin bastards.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:54 AM
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3. It wasn't shredded? The disc drives / tapes weren't written over?
Someone's gonna get so fired.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:54 AM
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4. Good news! This memo needs to be exposed to light and air
for the good of the nation.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:55 AM
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5. Judge to review opinion on CIA tactics
Judge to review opinion on CIA tactics


WASHINGTON, May 9 (UPI) -- A U.S district judge in New York says he plans to review a controversial legal opinion related to specific CIA detainee interrogations.

At issue is a 2002 memo from the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel dealing with CIA interrogation techniques. It was accompanied by a broader document on the definition of torture and techniques deemed legally permissible at the CIA, including a discussion on waterboarding, a type of simulated drowning, The Washington Post said.

U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein of the Southern District of New York previously ruled that the memo could be properly withheld from the public by the government because it was subject to attorney-client privilege.

But, Hellerstein said this week he hadn't given "sufficient consideration" to several factors. He mentioned evidence from the American Civil Liberties Union that the memo may have become a part of "official practice and policy," the Post report said.
more:http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/05/09/judge_to_review_opinion_on_cia_tactics/9027/
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:07 AM
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6. PUBLIC?
What right does the goddam PUBLIC have to know what its government is doing in their name? Just pay yer freakin' taxes, you lot, and leave the governing to the Decider and his staff.
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:59 AM
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7. hehe..so true..why should the people get to know anything
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:27 AM
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8. Thngs are starting to change
We had the torture hearings earlier this week, the Winter Soldier hearings are next week, and now this.
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