Colombia shows new rebel documents

Source: AP

BOGOTA, Colombia - A newly disclosed set of documents that Colombia's government says were recovered from a slain rebel's computers indicate senior Venezuelan officials tried to help arm Colombia's main guerrilla army.

The electronic documents — more than a dozen — were shown to The Associated Press on Friday.

They detail alleged meetings between senior Venezuelan officials — including that country's chief of military intelligence and interior minister — and top leaders of the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC. Some discuss the procurement of weapons, others rebel training for Venezuelan home defense forces.

Venezuelan officials maintain that Bogota is manipulating the truth.



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please find something, anything to demonize Chavez with.

That punk defender of the poor has got to be stopped!! He's helping too many poor people!! His freedom loving policies could be infectious for the rest of Latin America. Stop him now!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3265370

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Background:

"The Smart Way to Beat Tyrants Like Chávez," by Donald Rumsfeld, 12/1/07
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html

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BoRev.Net on the 'Miracle Laptop'
http://www.borev.net/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=Miracle%20Laptop&blog_id=1

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That's all you can do sometimes...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :wow: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rebels fighting in the jungle often carry laptops with the names of high government officials on them. Then they leave them where they can be discovered. After they die. So the information can't be disputed. Cause they're dead. Okey dokey.

and they were at a encampment in Ecuador. but yes, rebels have possession of advanced weaponry but couldn't possibly obtain a few lap tops now could they?

Quite an understatement there!

Uribe Would Be Involved in the “Final Offensive” Against Venezuela
May 8th 2008, by Últimas Noticias

First published April 25, 2008

The so-called “final offensive” against Venezuela (the purpose of which is to take President Chávez out of power) is being planned presumably from Colombia, and would be executed by that country’s army, according to agreements between Colombian President Álvaro Uribe and “the known agent of the intelligence services of the United States,” William Brownfield.

This information is recorded in the document titled “Shock and Awe Theory in Venezuela: Provoke a State of Shock In Order to Command Respect,” presented to the Public Ministry by former Venezuelan Attorney General Isaías Rodríguez when he went to make declarations regarding the Danilo Anderson case last Friday.

Citing sources from the Security Administration Department (DAS) of Colombia, the document recounts a recent private meeting in which Ambassador Brownfield, President Uribe, Colombian Vice President Francisco Santos, and Colombian Defense Minister Juan Manuel Santos participated. They conversed about plans to promote the “secession of the state of Zulia, Venezuela.”****

The source from within the DAS said that the ambassador made reference to a previous conversation he had with the United States Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who reportedly said: “The structure will be set up in the oil state, and the collaboration of Governor Manuel Rosales,” but the support of the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia is still lacking. The source added, “the Venezuelan army will by displaced to impede the autonomy and in that moment is when the paramilitaries come into play.** Uribe interrupted to express that this action was very dangerous and that he did not think Venezuelans would accept the state’s separation. I know the Venezuelans well and they will not accept this, so perhaps this favors Chávez.”

Francisco Santos rebutted Uribe, saying that “the idea is to distract Chávez while the other part of the plan is carried out in Caracas, Valencia, and Maracay”. Brownfield calmed Uribe, saying “don´t worry, everything is already prepared, we’ve been in Venezuela creating the conditions in Zulia for years, now the only thing left is to tie up the loose strings from Colombia and sew together the operation to produce the Venezuelan May.”

Uribe put Francisco Santos in charge of the details “without it looking like the Government is involved because we would go to war. The ambassador ended the discussion like this: ‘this is the best moment, because the electoral season in the United States makes many people think that our country is focused on that juncture, therefore any direct or indirect action by the United States would be ruled out or unsubstantiated. Long live the element of surprise.’”

The document also points out that in order to break Chávez down morally it must be planned that paramilitaries already located in Caracas kidnap his youngest son and transport him to an unspecified place in Colombia.

Translated by James Suggett

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/3424

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**Just a note about Colombia's rightwing paramilitaries. Their activities include chainsawing union leaders and throwing their body parts into mass graves, torture, slaughtering innocent people and dressing their corpses like FARC guerrillas to up their "kill score" (impress Bushites, who are larding $5.5 BILLION in military aid on the Colombian fascists), slitting children's throats if their parents are suspected of being leftists, killing political leftists, dissenters, opposition voters, small peasant farmers, human rights workers and journalists. These are the people that U.S. Ambassador Brownfield would unleash on the citizens of Zulia, Venezuela.

****This is a general Bush Junta strategy in the oil-rich Andes region. They cannot win elections or install puppets in Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia, so they are trying to split off the oil-rich provinces, for instance, using the rich white separatists in eastern Bolivia (where the gas and oil reserves are) and funding and organizing an illegal referendum, last Sunday, in which voters in the Santa Cruz province supposedly voted for autonomy (secession) in an unmonitored election, in an area where slavery, beatings, poverty and murder are used to suppress the indigenous and leftists. See

Leaders Warn of Autonomy Attempts in Venezuela, Ecuador
May 7th 2008, by Humberto Marquez - IPS
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3418

Also

U.S. is Promoting Secession in Bolivia, Repeating Venezuela Effort
May 6th 2008, by Nikolas Kozloff - CounterPunch
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3416

the expanded rightwing paramilitary activity in Colombia

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=39202

The fascist pigs making the accusations against Chavez--also against President Rafael Correa of Ecuador--kill dissenters in Colombia. Colombia has one of the worst human rights records in the world. They themselves--the accusers of Chavez--are terrorists, as are their funders and puppetmasters in the Bush Junta. Venezuela and Ecuador, on the other hand, are free, democratic societies, whose governments have harmed no one, invaded no one, jailed no one unfairly, and where political debate is vociferous, and elections are open, honest and highly transparent.

Who are the "dictators"? Who are the "terrorists"? Who are the murderers? Who are the torturers? Who are the drug lords?

the elected President of Venezuela.

"Shock" and the confusion it causes the target gives the asshole attacking the natural advantage. It's so good that people are learning about this filthy tactic NOW, and are able to look back up the road to where the U.S. has been already and can see how it was implemented previously, to the great suffering of people in other countries, other times.

I really hope the government of Venezuela has known about this long enough in advance to be able to prepared adequate defenses.

Had NO IDEA until seeing your first link that that reeking pile, ambassador William Brownfield, who was the ambassador in Venezuela, following the coup ambassador Charles Shapiro, and suddenly he shows up in Colombia, working in a country _Bush is using for a proxy war, taking along with him all of whatever info. they gathered on the Venezuelan government during his stay there, and undoubtedly, as a despenser of U.S. taxpayers' hard-earned money to political opposition groups in both countries, he will be able to link up these oligarchy enemies of democracy very capably.

He was so disliked in Venezuela, when he spontaneously appeared at a childrens' little league baseball game and attempted to hand out baseball equipment, mothers, fathers, onlookers started running for things to throw, picked up vegetables and eggs from a local grocery, jumped on their motorcycles and chased his limousine far away from the baseball game, launching some very well-pitched eggs and tomatoes, etc. at his car. He made sure photos of the event were taken from his back window so he would have proof when he whined about it later, claiming the offenders were simply "Chavez supporters."



William Brownfield is escorted back to the embassy, where he
should have stayed, not butting in where he wasn't wanted.
You'd alomst think there's a tradition of NEVER sending an ambassador from one country directly to another country which has been found to have sent death squads to assassinate the President, already. That's astoundingly dirty.

Kidnapping his son is far lower than anything you'd think a person in the world as we see it would EVER entertain. Unbelievably filthy. I hope Chavez learned of this long, long ago, and has put all his loved ones far from the reach of grubby _Bush-serving assassins. Nothing could be less honorable.



Is it really a shock when this guy does something hideous?

Colombian gov't infiltrated by 'paras'-witness
Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:16pm EDT


By Hugh Bronstein

BOGOTA, April 18 (Reuters) - Colombian government ministries and other state institutions are infiltrated by outlawed right-wing militias, a witness told judges in testimony on Friday that could further imperil a U.S. trade deal.

More than 60 members of Congress, most from President Alvaro Uribe's conservative coalition, are being investigated for possible links to drug-running paramilitaries who have terrorized Colombia for years in the name of combating left-wing rebels.

The probe's star witness, former intelligence official Rafael Garcia, now in jail for erasing the criminal histories of paramilitary leaders from a government database, told the Supreme Court the armed forces, government ministries and other institutions were also rife with "paras."

"Congress is not the only institution penetrated by the paramilitaries," he said while testifying against a senator caught in the scandal.

The allegation could increase resistance in Washington to a U.S.-Colombia free trade deal, blocked by House of Representatives Democrats concerned that Uribe is not doing enough to protect labor union members who are often targeted by the paramilitaries.

More:
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN18328388