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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:52 PM
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Obama to reach delegate milestone Tuesday
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama will reach a significant milestone Tuesday as he marches toward the Democratic nomination for president — a majority of the pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses.

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g23CFh4VCgRhtOIEGCm3QFm50nJgD90OTN380


:beer:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:59 PM
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1. The legendary Pelosi Number.
How many SDs will tip?

NGU.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:02 PM
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2. 8-10, I think, including the endorsement of Jimmy Carter. n/t
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:25 PM
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13. Don't count on it this week
Not with Michigan and Florida in question.

Jimmy Carter: "And I think that many super-delegates who have not yet declared their preference have the same feeling that I do, including the Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. She’s said over and over that whoever gets the most delegates by June 3rd ought to be the nominee."
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canucksawbones Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:19 PM
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15. if she's talking pledged delegates
Then Barack Obama will be over 50% Tuesday, Hillary can't get the most delegates after that.

GK
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Saydrah Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:07 PM
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3. The End
The end of Hillary's arguments that she should be the nominee. She can't use math creative enough to get around this one.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:29 PM
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5. What? She's the most creative math wizard in the history
of election politics and can hire more creative bean counters to back up her numbers than anyone.

:spank:

You'll see.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:14 PM
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7. 2 + 2 = 1 (in red states)
1+1 = 400 in Hillary states
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:44 PM
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11. Welcome to DU, Saydrah!
:patriot: :hi:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:26 PM
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14. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:46 AM
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17. People who use the math are tools
there is a Hillbot who has a pretty long journal ranting against the delegate system as being unfair to Hillary.

Keep in mind that 9 is double digits for these people. They will likely claim that since Obama will win Oregon and Hill will win Kentucky that they are tied. Nothing will surprise me anymore.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:13 PM
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4. Proud 5th rec.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:30 PM
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6. Sure. However, when do we ALL start getting behind Obama? n/t
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:17 PM
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8. Ouch
(snip)

"Obama picked up the endorsement of Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia Monday, less than a week after Clinton overwhelmingly won the state's primary."

That's really going to sting.
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HDPaulG Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:34 PM
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9. Clinton argues that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment
And Sen. Byrd did...
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:41 PM
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10. For the Clinton crowd, here it is with MI and FL factored in
Total pledged delegates: 3566

Needed for majority (pledged delegates): 1784

So far (incl. MI and FL): 1681.5 Obama, 1620.5 Clinton, 20 Edwards, 55 uncommited

That means Obama needs 102.5 to get the majority of all pledged delegates. He needs 215 total (incl. MI and FL) to win the nom, 110 excluding MI and FL.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/

Basically, this means Hillary has basically no pantsuited leg to stand on.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:47 PM
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16. And that assumes she'll strong arm the committee to bow to her will.
A more probable scenario is that only 50% of MI and FL gets seated.

However if he reaches or is close to reaching the 2025 number by the end of the month, the odds the committee will do anything beneficial to HRC drops like a rock. They wouldn't want to be seen as trying to steal the nomination.
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The Political Jerk Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:44 PM
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12. Watch the Superdelegates Roll Later This Week
He'll be close to 2025 by the weekend.

-The Political Jerk
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:11 PM
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18. I'm beginning to think
that there never was "tight" race between Obama and Hillary. I think it was a landslide for Obama to begin with, and that's never changed.

The networks love a Cliff-Hanger, though, so they'll keep feeding the illusion.

Re: Portland. The turnout in Portland showed an inescapable fact: the public is for Obama. Does anyone really think that Clinton could have pulled in so many people?
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