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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:31 AM
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Crane Collapse In N.Y.C.
Edited on Fri May-30-08 07:42 AM by Earth Bound Misfit
Source: WCBS News Radio

Crane Collapses in Upper Manhattan


NEW YORK (WCBS 880) -- Emergency crews are responding to a crane collapse in Manhattan.

There is a report of at least one person trapped.

It happened at East 91st Street and 1st Avenue.

This is a developing story. Stay tuned for the latest


Read more: http://www.wcbs880.com/pages/2280866.php?contentType=4&contentId=2134467



Edit to add comment: Early report says 2 dead according to NBC 4 NY, CNN, MSNBC. Reporting "massive" structural damage to apartment building.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:32 AM
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1. Has anyone read or seen any kind of a investigative report of why all of
a sudden, there are so many crane collapses around the country.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:51 AM
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5. All the graft and negligence has finally come home to roost.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:43 AM
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2. WNBC reporting 2 dead
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:44 AM
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3. AGAIN (nm)

Looks like Bloomberg isn't fit to be president if he cannot even get his inspectors off the take.

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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:51 AM
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4. How exactly do you get a crane 25 stories up on top of a building? /nt
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:53 AM
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6. Engineering...
Edited on Fri May-30-08 07:58 AM by BrklynLib at work
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_(machine)




<snip>
Mechanical principles

Crane at skyscraper construction in Barcelona, SpainThere are two major considerations that are taken into account in the design of cranes. The first is that the crane must be able to lift a load of a specified weight and the second is that the crane must remain stable and not topple over when the load is lifted and moved to another location.


Lifting capacity
Cranes illustrate the use of one or more simple machines to create mechanical advantage.

The lever. A balance crane contains a horizontal beam (the lever) pivoted about a point called the fulcrum. The principle of the lever allows a heavy load attached to the shorter end of the beam to be lifted by a smaller force applied in the opposite direction to the longer end of the beam. The ratio of the load's weight to the applied force is equal to the ratio of the lengths of the longer arm and the shorter arm, and is called the mechanical advantage.
The pulley. A jib crane contains a tilted strut (the jib) that supports a fixed pulley block. Cables are wrapped multiple times round the fixed block and round another block attached to the load. When the free end of the cable is pulled by hand or by a winding machine, the pulley system delivers a force to the load that is equal to the applied force multiplied by the number of lengths of cable passing between the two blocks. This number is the mechanical advantage.
The hydraulic cylinder. This can be used directly to lift the load or indirectly to move the jib or beam that carries another lifting device.
Cranes, like all machines, obey the principle of conservation of energy. This means that the energy delivered to the load cannot exceed the energy put into the machine. For example, if a pulley system multiplies the applied force by ten, then the load moves only one tenth as far as the applied force. Since energy is proportional to force multiplied by distance, the output energy is kept roughly equal to the input energy (in practice slightly less, because some energy is lost to friction and other inefficiencies).


Stability of crane
In order for a crane to be stable, the sum of all moments about any point such as the base of the crane must equate to zero. In practice, the magnitude of load that is permitted to be lifted (called the "rated load" in the US) is some value less than the load that will cause the crane to tip.

Under US standards for mobile cranes, the stability-limited rated load for a crawler crane is 75% of the tipping load. The stability-limited rated load for a mobile crane supported on outriggers is 85% of the tipping load.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/chi-0604280109apr28,0,977097.story?page=2


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For instance, I finally found out how tower cranes get onto the rooftops of skyscrapers.
They jump up there.

Bottom climber

There are many types of tower cranes, and the size, model and their positions on the site are all strategically selected long before the job begins. Freeman's crane, which is stout and strong ("because we're going to be climbing high, in the high wind"), is known as a bottom climber, and it is essentially on the inside of the very building it is helping to construct. It seems to be getting shorter, because the growing building obscures the tower, but soon a hydraulic pump located at the base will jack the entire crane up and place it onto a new base eight floors up. It will "jump" about 14 times in all, until the crane sits atop the Trump Tower's 92nd floor -- about twice as high as the IBM Building.

"Of course, the higher the building goes the more you're working blind," Freeman said. But he's always quick to point out that he's not alone up there. In addition to his oiler, there's constant communication from signalmen on speaker boxes throughout the site. "They tell us `come down slow,' or `trolley in a little bit,' or `swing one, swing two.' One means to the operator's right, two is to the operator's left."

And he has computers, which, like safety harnesses, are a modern convenience he did without in his first decade on the job. "So say I'm pouring concrete, and there's a truck out there, and I can't see it. When I set the bucket the first time, I can look at my computer and note the radius is at 51 feet. The next time I drop I know to set the bucket at 51 feet. That helps. We used to paint marks on the jib -- just walk out there and paint a little mark," he said.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:06 AM
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8. You add sections on the bottom
By jacking up then adding a section at a time on the bottom.
There's something seriously wrong when this happens once.
Never mind several times.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:13 AM
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10. Thanks, the crane was stationary at the time, WTH happened to it?
Edited on Fri May-30-08 08:18 AM by NotThisTime
Seems like the crane operator did not survive as first reported that he had...
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:25 AM
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12. Considering the crane's cab...
ended up top down on the street, it would have been surprising if he had survived.
I can see 6 helicopters from my window and I'm 6 blocks away with very limited visibility.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:41 AM
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14. According to WNBC 's Vivian Lee who spoke with several
"workers", this crane was "jumped" just last Friday. The NY Times reported just YESTERDAY:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/nyregion/29crane.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

City inspectors will no longer be present every time a construction crane is erected or made taller, officials said on Wednesday, as they continued to modify safeguards put in place after the collapse of a crane 10 weeks ago that killed seven people on the East Side of Manhattan.

Instead, inspectors will make spot checks of the crane raisings, known as jumps, and of safety meetings at which procedures for each jump must be laid out.

--snip--

On Wednesday, the department issued a report saying its inspectors attended 51 crane jumps between March 25 and May 16. It described 49 of the jumps as successful and said its inspectors found serious safety violations at two others.

Kate Lindquist, a spokeswoman for the Buildings Department, said that in the context of the new regulations the spot inspections “will best direct the department’s crane inspectors toward cracking down on the bad actors that do not follow the rules.”

Full story at link.





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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:00 PM
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18. You play a tape recording of a female crane in heat
:D
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:57 AM
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7. I was wondering why I could hear helicopters.
The very worshipful sales office for that building (set up before construction even began) is right around the corner from me. I would occasionally walk on that street on the way to Weight Watchers, but I've been avoiding it because that way dumps me in the midst of the 2nd Ave. subway construction, so I go a different way.
I'm really glad two of the three buildings nearer to me that are under construction have gotten rid of their cranes.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:16 AM
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11. me too, my partner and i stepped outside saw all the helicopters
hovering and came right back in to see what happened.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:10 AM
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9. The is the second time
WTF...IS HAPPENING IN NYC???
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:32 AM
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13. Although the news keeps saying this is a busy street...
because it's rush hour, because of the subway construction a block away and the fact that downtown traffic in the morning is much heavier than uptown (2nd rather than 1st Avenues) traffic on that street is much lighter than it might be. That includes foot traffic, too. You'd only be on that street if you have to be.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:51 AM
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15. Unregulated Capitalism At Its Finest
They've been building luxury condos like crazy in NYC over the past 8 years of Bloomberg. I ranted about this when the last crane crashed a couple of months ago.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:25 PM
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16. Deja Vu!
One big mess to clean up. A hope the surviving victim recover well and the residents get through this horrible tragedy.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:55 PM
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17. I hate these kinds of stories.
Edited on Fri May-30-08 03:57 PM by yibbehobba
About four years ago my father and another man were killed in an accident on a road construction site when a certain jackass decided it was cool for him to back up a tri-axle dump truck over half a mile without a spotter or any way of checking his blind spots (which on a big truck are roughly the size of Maine.) There were no traffic controls in place on site, and I'm fairly certain that their head of safety was playing golf at the time. Construction workers work in very dangerous conditions every day, and trust their lives to those around them, every single day. And more often than not when they're let down it's due to some dumbass in a position of authority (see the Utah mine collapse) or some subcontractor thrice removed hiring people who barely know how to operate equipment that doesn't get inspected properly anyway (cause that would cost money.)

Now I don't want to say that everyone who works in an executive capacity at construction firms is a moron, but there's definitely a good-old-boys element to it, and a lot of the execs are in their positions because daddy's brother founded the company. We'll see what transpires with this case, but personal experience makes me less than hopeful.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:24 PM
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19. Video right after it happened
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