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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:22 PM
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Jack Kemp, one-time VP nominee, dies
Edited on Sat May-02-09 09:29 PM by 47of74
Source: MSNBC

WASHINGTON - Jack Kemp, the ex-quarterback, congressman, one-time vice-presidential nominee and self-described "bleeding-heart conservative" died Saturday.

His spokeswoman Bona Park and longtime friend and former campaign adviser Edwin J. Feulner confirmed that Kemp died after a lengthy illness.


Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30540404/
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:25 PM
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1. Kemp was the only sentient being on the GOP ticket in 1996.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:39 PM
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2. I'm very sorry to hear this.
Jack Kemp was a good man, and the sort of Republican no longer welcome in the Party.

RIP.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:41 AM
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34. Typical tax cut proponent
He might have been a good man, but "he continued to advocate for the tax reform and supply-side policies — the idea that the more taxes are cut the more the economy will grow — that he pioneered." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iPIEjfIjOPpnL8SxbDfdLORikcFwD97UQ5N80
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:42 PM
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3. A decent guy for a Republican...I think he really did want to help
people...I disagree about the way he thought would work, but he did have his heart in the right place. RIP
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:02 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:14 AM
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:23 AM
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33. That's not nice. Once they're dead you are only flaming their families.
Just let them be. Jack Kemp wasn't really all that bad anyway.
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Dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:22 PM
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40. Somehow, I doubt Kemp's family are poring over DU right now.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:44 PM
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4. One of the last decent Republicans. May he RIP.
:-(
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:46 PM
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5. A sincere and good man
:patriot:
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:48 PM
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6. He seemed decent. RIP.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:56 PM
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7. Could definitely do worse as far as Republicans go.
RIP.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:57 PM
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8. Examples of his goodness:


self-described ''bleeding-heart conservative''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kemp

Jack Kemp Fed Up With Hannity's Attacks On Obama video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iqNKEK5xcs

Gore-Kemp debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-vXRDHk6Y
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:17 PM
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9. sad to hear
he was a good guy
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:20 PM
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10. ... As a candidate for the GOP nomination in 1988, Kemp’s platform .. included planks that would
have legitimized U.S. support for “freedom fighters” such as the Nicaraguan Contras and favored the deployment of the “Star Wars” strategic missile defense system ... http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Kemp_Jack
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Dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:27 PM
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42. Decent guy, huh?
:sarcasm:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:24 PM
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11. His tax-policies were rubbish, but the guy was not hijacked by the far-right.
He's the type of Republican you could tolerate.

Bless him.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:39 PM
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12. exactly. he was a guy you could vehemently disagree with...
but, at the end of the day, you could still respect him.

I always picked him when I was forced to chose a favorite Republican (other than Lincoln Chafee).
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:44 PM
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13. His Kemp-Roth tax cut opened the GOP Red Ink Spigot
More than anyone else, he's the one responsible for opening the GOP's Borrow and Spend Red Ink Spigot. He's the one that turned America from a creditor to a debtor nation.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:10 PM
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14. There just aren't very many decent Republicans left
There's one less as of now. I didn't always agree with Kemp, but I sensed that he was no slave to ideology and had the best interests of the country in mind.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:57 AM
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30. Be that as it may
He was still a slave to ideology, and would have followed that path even if he disagreed with it.

Which means the country would have still been screwed by Republican ideology!
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:41 PM
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15. Good man
Sincerely cared about the plight of the inner cities and minorities. Was arguably a better HUD secretary than some democratic appointees.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:45 PM
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16. May he and his family be at peace.
His policies may not have made sense, and at times were downright misguided. However, he was a public servant in the best sense. The country would be much better served at this point in history, if the GOP were filled with men like Kemp, allowing it to be the "loyal opposition" the country needs.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:45 PM
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17. RIP Mr. Kemp. You were one of the better ones.
Edited on Sat May-02-09 11:46 PM by Vidar
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:18 AM
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18. Kemp did a decent job as secretary of HUD
The career types respected him, which is not something that can be said for most other secretaries appointed in Republican administrations.
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DAMANgoldberg Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:32 AM
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19. Last of a kind...
Of "real" republicans. I guess you can list them on 1 or 2 hands now that's left.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:52 AM
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20. His heart truly seemed to be in the right place
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:00 AM
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21. This says it all - Jack Kemp was a fine man
http://www.kemppartners.com/about-jack-kemp/column/a-letter-to-my-grandchildren/
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:58 AM
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23. he even kept this image on his front page
Edited on Sun May-03-09 03:00 AM by Adenoid_Hynkel


i think he was a bit misguided in policy, but overall, he was a decent man who tried his best to elevate the discussion

if the gop had followed his path and reached out to, rather than demonized minorities, we'd be living in a much more civil world than the bush crew left us

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wutangfan85 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:36 AM
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25. Yeah, I totally agree with you here. Jack Kemp was
one of the few Republicans that at least tried to reach out to the Black community. He actually was supposed to have a speaking role at the Million Man March, which he would take a lot of heat for from people in his party.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:45 AM
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26. His closing line of his last column is a bit of a contrast from Rush and Jindal
on Obama:

"Therefore let all of us strive to help him be a successful president, so as to help make America an even greater nation."
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:44 AM
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27. Jack was a decent man
& was a cut above the current criminal GOP element.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:53 AM
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28. He probably was a good guy, but supply side economics are shit
And he was a monster supply sider. Just because he didn't launch an attack on Iraq doesn't mean he didn't commit economic violence against our country.

The good news is that supply siders seem to be completely discredited right now.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:55 PM
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38. But his hair was perfect....


That's winning hair, right there...
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:56 PM
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44. A lot better than Governor Goodhair
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:56 AM
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29. He seemed like a decent guy.
Too bad it wasn't someone like Newt or Delay instead.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:07 AM
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31. He Cared a Great Deal for His Country
I vehemently disagreed with his Reagan-style politics, but give him credit for managing to look respectable in spite of them.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:07 AM
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32. A New York Republican
I can deal with a New York Republican, at least greed is rational, wrong, but rational.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:51 AM
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35. One of the last of the honorable Republicans
Very sad day indeed.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:03 AM
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36. Kemp was a decent guy and a genuine patriot
As wrongheaded as we all believe his positions to be on almost everything, from supply side to abortion rights to foreign policy, he seemed to sincerely want the best for all of us, unlike the huge majority of his party. It's pointless and inappropriate to trash him today.
Plus he was a hell of a QB! RIP, Mr. Kemp.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:40 PM
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37. Good riddance...
he's one of the main supporters of the "laughter" curve (mispelling purposeful)...and is one of the DIRECT causes of our current economic mess...

GREED IS GOOD
NO REGULATION
SUPPLY SIDE
CUT TAXES

nice piece of work for only ONE ASSHOLE...
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:48 PM
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43. Gotta be honest
I'm as progressive as they come, but can separate political differences from humanity and our universal roles as simple human beings. When I read things like what you just wrote - and much of what you have written in the past - I realize that you are an extremely angry, angry individual. It makes for a fucked up life. Really.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:28 PM
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:07 PM
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39. Uncanny timing - almost emblematic
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Dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:26 PM
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41. His economic views were pure evil
Much as I dislike speaking ill of the recently dead, all this "decent guy" bullshit is an insult to the millions of victims of supply-side economics, towards none of whom he showed any kind of heart, bleeding or otherwise.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:41 AM
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45. Disagreed with him on a lot of issues, will mourn his loss
He seemed to be one of the Republicans with integrity and at least some compassion and humanity, His loss is a sad one for the US political landscape and my deepest and sincerest thoughts, prayers, condolences and sympathies go to his family.

RIP Jack Kemp
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