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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 12:44 AM
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'No Jews' policy employed at Austria hotel
Source: DPA

A hotel in the Austrian region of Tyrol that said it does not accept Jewish guests has caused shock in the local media and tourism industry, the daily Tiroler Tageszeitung reported Sunday.

A Vienna family of seven had had tried to make a reservation at the Haus Sonnenhof apartment hotel in the village of Serfaus, but the owner replied by e-mail that although the room was free, she did not want to take in Jewish guests because of "bad experiences" in the past.

The region around Serfaus has become popular among orthodox Jewish tourists in recent years, and several hotels in Tyrol have begun offering kosher food.

At Hotel Alpenruh-Micheluzzi, owner Petra Micheluzzi told the German Press Agency DPA that the rejection by the Sonnenhof was "bad for the image" of Serfaus.

One such incident could destroy all the hard work by others in the travel industry, she said, a view echoed by local and regional tourism officials.


Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1084458.html
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 12:54 AM
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1. .
:banghead:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:39 AM
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14. ...
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:00 AM
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47. And Jews are banned from the entire country of Saudi Arabia
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 12:55 AM
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2. I thought that was illegal. I hope these people lose their license immediately. n/t
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:02 AM
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4. In AUSTRIA?
Why did you think that was illegal?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:16 AM
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5. Discrimination is illegal in MANY countries. n/t
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:40 AM
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10. Sure.
In Austria?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:48 AM
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11. Yeah, in Austria. A quick look shows that Austria ratified
the UN Convention on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination in 1966.

http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/emire/AUSTRIA/ANCHOR-DISKRIMINIERUNGSVERBOTE-AT.htm
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:27 PM
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35. Yup, as I just stated -- I don't know why they're shocked
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:30 PM
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36. We tend to think of Austria and Germany in a different way
than we think of our own long and ongoing history of discrimination, I guess.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:19 AM
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13. Holocaust denial is illegal in Austria
It's not unreasonable to think this would be as well.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:59 AM
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15. But they've got some real flamers over there.
.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 12:32 PM
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29. It is illegal, at least in theory
And not acceptable in the EU, to which Austria has belonged since 1995.

However, Austria did have Waldheim as president not that long ago, and far-RW-ers like the late Mr. Haider have done quite well in elections recently, so I'm not that surprised.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:18 PM
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31. My thought exactly.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:26 PM
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34. I also think it would be illegal -- they are part of teh EU
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 12:56 AM
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3. A plague of cockroaches on Haus Sonnenhof!
bad for their image, indeed.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:21 AM
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6. Austria, the nation that grew Hitler? Quelle surprise.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:24 AM
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7. "bad experiences" in the past...
Still smarting over V-E day, no doubt. :wtf:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:26 AM
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8. Having lived in Austria for some years, this is no surprise to me.
Many, perhaps most Austrians are not anti-Jewish, but certainly met enough who definitely, shall we say, thought that maybe Hitler was not all wrong -- far too many of such Austrians for my taste. My experience in Austria made me think very differently about lots of things including Israel. It made my understand why Jewish people need a country where they can feel safe.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:44 AM
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:58 AM
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24. Why does any post that contains the word "Jews" need
to evolve into a conversation about the Middle East? This incident has nothing to do with Israel.

I say the same thing to the previous poster who brought it up.

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:05 AM
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46. JDPriestly introduced Israel into the thread.
But it is probably better to talk about Anti-Semitism being tied to Zionism than to pretend that people don't really make that connection. Many, many Jews do not subscribe to the kind of Zionism that Netanyahu (and others) represents and preaches, and that debate centers on the Middle East, for obvious reasons. (If not this thread, then at least let people discuss it on another thread.)
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Grey Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 12:08 PM
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28. I agree with you about Palestine however,
I don't think thats what the story is about.
I am just going to assume it's about the "Kosher dining", inspecting the kitchen, making unreasonable demands etc.
Some hotels offer kosher dining some don't, you just never know what will set someone off. If that's the case I wouldn't want them in my hotel ether.
and I don't give a damn what their "Religeousenness is!

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:48 PM
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33. Do you think all requests for dietary adaptations are 'unreasonable'?
Would you feel the same about vegetarians, or people who have special diets for medical reasons?

If the hotel is that inflexible and intolerant, then they don't deserve to do well.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:35 AM
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9. a hotel that hadn't had "bad experiences" would be weird no matter
what the guest's ethnic background was. They sound like nutters.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:51 AM
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12. maybe the "bad experiences"....
were of the "they got angry when we told them they killed Jesus and Hitler was an okay guy" sort.

Like, "can you believe she kicked me in the balls? (when all I did was try to grope her...)"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:20 AM
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:29 AM
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23. yeah, because everyone knows that Jews are thieves.
now run along back to stormfron, bigot.
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suede1 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:52 AM
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16. Disgusting.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:08 AM
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:50 AM
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21. That's in Germany and not in Austria,
and it's a residence for the elderly, not a hotel. It has nothing to do with the article in the OP. :hi:
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InfiniteThoughts Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:12 AM
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18. to the owner dude ...
wake up Mr. Rip Van Winkle, this is 1939 .. it is 2009!
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InfiniteThoughts Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:48 AM
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20. to be read as ..
should be read as :

wake up Mr. Rip Van Winkle, this isn't 1939 .. it is 2009!


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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:02 AM
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25. Hi, if you look at the bottom right hand side of your
post you will see an "edit" mode where you can go back in and make corrections. :hi:
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InfiniteThoughts Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 11:19 PM
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40. thanks for the tip
i didn't realize the error for a long time and when i wanted to edit it, i got a message stating that the editing time period was long over. however, i shall remember to proof-read my entries before i go away...

thanks.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:20 AM
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26. Is there a Field Guide to Jews so you can figure out who is and who isn't? A blood test?
Disgusting.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:26 AM
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27. Instead of complaining that a hotel in Austria won't allow Jews to stay there...
... shouldn't we instead be applauding that hotel for not trying to turn them in to The Gestapo?

:sarcasm:

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:37 PM
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30. Revolting.
They should send that family back with a group of British, French, US and Russian troops. Remind them who won the war.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:59 PM
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32. Oh boy. A night at the Hitler Arms.
No thanks. I'll take my chances with Motel 6. :eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:32 PM
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37. Austria is known to be quite anti-semitic, but they still have agreed to adhere to certain laws
Which these asses aren't. They are breaking the law.

A German friend of mine calls Austrians,"Anti-semitic rednecks who pine for the wonderful days of the Holocaust." (direct email quote)
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:44 PM
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38. Unbelievable that we could still be seeing this type of overt discrimination
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:07 PM
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48. Not unbelievable at all. Kinda depressing, though (nt)
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tomhayes Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:47 PM
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39. Would this be different if it were a "Christian" hotel?
They could tell the jews to skip prom also???
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:57 AM
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42. what?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:25 AM
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44. I'm happy to see I'm not the only one confused by that post
"what?" indeed
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 11:54 PM
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41. Way to be, everybody
I was just watching a travel show about the Tyrol earlier today. It seemed pretty nice.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 01:56 AM
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43. She's going to get so flattened, she'll have to look up to squashed bugs.
And that's at the very least.

Betcha the owner is bankrupt and in prison by the end of the year.
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redpolpo Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 03:48 AM
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45. let's talk to her! sonnenhof@serfaus.to
i have no words....
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