Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Senator calls for 'truth commission' to probe Bush-era interrogations

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:18 AM
Original message
Senator calls for 'truth commission' to probe Bush-era interrogations
Edited on Thu May-14-09 09:18 AM by kpete
Source: Los Angeles Times

Senator calls for 'truth commission' to probe Bush-era interrogations
By Josh Meyer
May 14, 2009

Reporting from Washington -- The partisan clash over controversial Bush administration interrogation methods intensified Wednesday at a Senate hearing, with the chairman saying a "truth commission" is all but inevitable.

....................

The Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing, the first by Congress on the Bush administration's use of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques, also revealed some new details about how the harsh tactics were authorized and used.

Ali Soufan, a former FBI counter-terrorism agent and interrogator, testified that President George W. Bush and Justice Department lawyers were wrong when they said that waterboarding and other tactics used on one suspect provided key pieces of intelligence about Al Qaeda after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Testifying from behind a screen to protect his identity, Soufan said the techniques, touted by the Bush administration as perhaps its most effective weapon against terrorism, were actually slow, ineffective and unreliable.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-interrogate14-2009may14,0,4657867.story
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:19 AM
Response to Original message
1. truthiness commission = whitewash... we need independent prosecutors
and a Grand Jury.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #1
6. I'm not a fan of grand juries
But I support the idea over a truth commission.

The reason why I don't like grand juries is because the defense can't challenge evidence. Like one judge said a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich because a prosecutor is the only one presenting evidence.

Special prosecutor most definately.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:25 AM
Response to Original message
2. When you really want to cover something up, get a truth commission together.
Maybe Arlen Specter can be on the truth commission.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Why not ask Philip Zelikow he is there anyway n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:28 AM
Response to Original message
3. I hope they enlist Specter. He's done these commissions before.
I'm sure he has a brilliant 'magic waterboard' theory. I'm dying to hear it. (No, not really.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:30 AM
Response to Original message
4. Big fat FTS on that - we need PROSECUTIONS.
Bush administration officials need to suffer punishment for what they did.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:57 AM
Response to Original message
7. I watched the 9-11 commission and
with my limited knowledge of what I learned on the internet I knew the commission was covering up and protecting people.A truth commission on will discover nothing,but will be a cover up to protect Bush.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 11:15 AM
Response to Original message
8. Senator calls for 'truth commission' to probe Bush-era interrogations
Source: Hatford Courant

Senator calls for 'truth commission' to probe Bush-era interrogations
By Josh Meyer
May 14, 2009

Sheldon Whitehouse says officials apparently used twisted interpretations of the law to justify harsh tactics such as waterboarding. A GOP colleague suggests that Democrats are just playing politics.

The partisan clash over controversial Bush administration interrogation methods intensified Wednesday at a Senate hearing, with the chairman saying a "truth commission" is all but inevitable...

Philip D. Zelikow, who was a legal advisor to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, provided new details about what he said were his efforts to aggressively protest the use of the techniques in meetings in the White House situation room and elsewhere.

In each case, he said, he was routinely blocked by more senior administration officials and ordered to destroy a lengthy legal memo in which he outlined his concerns about the "unsound, even unreasonable" legal justifications for the tactics.

Zelikow, now a history professor at the University of Virginia, called the interrogation campaign "an unprecedented program of coolly calculated dehumanizing abuse and physical torment to extract information." It was, he added, "a mistake, perhaps a disastrous one" that should be investigated so the country can learn from it.

Whitehouse vowed more hearings on the legality of the interrogations, in tandem with the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is investigating whether the techniques worked and how they were used.

Whitehouse said mounting evidence suggests that administration officials used twisted legal interpretations to authorize the tactics. He also said he was concerned about information provided by Zelikow and others, suggesting that administration officials beat back internal opposition that was much stronger than has been disclosed.


Read more: http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/la-na-interrogate14-2009may14,0,5435079.story
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. kpete
has already posted this but thought it deserved another look
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 11:53 AM
Response to Original message
10. How about they let me poke a sharpened spoon into the eyes of the
witnesses and make them eat it themselves?

After all, if you right eye offend thee, and so on.

(Yeah, okay, I just like the idea of feeding them their own eyes.)


NO COMMISSION! Investigate, indict, convict, imprison, execute.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
11. I wonder if Henry Kissinger..
will be one of the members of the 'truth' commission. I can just see him grilling Rummy about war crimes..they'd probably have a good laugh.

http://freethoughtmanifesto.blogspot.com/2007/12/henry-kissingers-war-crimes.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
12. Screw "truth commissions"
Investigate...prosecute...jail criminals (GOP or DEM)...start over
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 15th 2024, 12:09 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC