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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:32 PM
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Carlyle Group Admits Role In "Pay to Play" Scandal
Source: ABC News

Politically-Connected Firm Admits Payments of $13 Million to Indicted Middleman to Get New York State Business

The Carlyle Group, a giant Wall Street firm best known for its ties to former President George H.W. Bush and other prominent public officials, made more than $13 million in payments to a indicted political fixer who arranged for the firm to receive business from a New York pension fund, New York attorney general Andrew Cuomo said today.

Cuomo said Carlyle had agreed to $20 million to "resolve its role" in the ongoing corruption investigation and agreed to a new code of conduct that prohibits the use of such middlemen.

Cuomo said the code would "help eliminate the conflicts of interest and corruption inherent in a system that allows people to buy access to those holding the pension fund purse-strings."

Carlyle is the latest high-profile firm to be ensnared in a nationwide probe known as the "pay for play" scandal because Wall Street firms allegedly paid politically-connected fixers to get them business from pension funds controlled by public officials.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=7586756&page=1
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:57 PM
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1. No!!! Say it isn't so!!! Those guys have always been
so sweet and innocent!!

Insert your own sarcasm sign here
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:12 PM
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2. GEE what a surprise!
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:19 PM
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3. Yup! Poppy's good ole boys! nt
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:42 PM
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4. Seems like a slap on the wrist, to me
Edited on Thu May-14-09 01:44 PM by muriel_volestrangler
Until it hired Morris, said Cuomo, Carlyle had "experienced limited success in obtaining investments" from the New York state fund.

Carlyle then received more than $730 million in New York state pension funds for five different projects, according to Cuomo.
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According to union records, Carlyle received $878 million in private equity investment from "the New York State Common Retirement Fund." The fund's $122 billion in assets is for the retirement benefits of state and local employees in New York. The state paid total management and incentive fees of $37.5 million between 2005 and 2008 to Carlyle, according to fund records. The fund is the third largest in the nation.


So that $20 million is still less than the fees it received. The moral: even if you get caught, you may still come out ahead, if you can do a deal.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:05 PM
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5. The fine is just peanuts. A net profit to Carlyle of $18 in fees alone

Plus they get to play with almost a trillion of retirement fund assets.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:27 PM
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6. With fines so cheap it's profitable to be corrupt
when what you have to pay out in bribes and fines is less than you make in profits from your criminal activity.... sigh

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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 11:46 PM
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8. That's the new math for accounting, and it's not just the complete sleazebags, either.
Most large companies will weigh the profits and liabilities the same way when marketing a new product. New drugs with dangerous known side-effects and new cars with cheap, OEM parts are a prime example. As long as the bean counters say the cost of clean-up and fines will be less then the profit, it's a go.

It's $$$ over people, every time. As stated in "The Corporation", corporations are, by definition, sociopathic entities.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:19 AM
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10. Yep... they all do it across the board
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:42 PM
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7. 13 Mill? Someone rifled the petty cash drawer?
How deep these criminals are into it.. really.. That 13 mill fell out of the sofa cushions..
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 12:41 AM
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9. a drop in the bucket
to those bastards.
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