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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:20 PM Original message |
Obama To Continue Military Tribunals |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama might as well continue to torture and keep Guantanamo open |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Yeah. Also, he might as well drown puppies for sport. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Bullshit argument! We have lots of terrorists in federal prison |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Ummm... hello? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
65. If they were tortured, they may have a lawsuit against the US, but that does not mean they are |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. We KNOW they're guilty? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
66. Apparently, the second one, the one after the word "or." |
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Old Coot (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I agree. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. there's a reason their testimony is "inadmissible." they've been tortured. |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Ummm... duh? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
50. WE LIVED IT! How America was turned into a fascist state. With smiles and flags... |
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TheLastMohican (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. It all started long time ago |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. It's interesting being witness to history in this way. These boards are a catalog of the struggle. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
69. Torture does not preclude a conviction. Lack of solid evidence precludes a conviction. If we have |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. Most of them aren't terrorists at all. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
68. Yes New Boss same as Old Boss |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Excuses, excuses, excuses... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The Constitution is so inconvenient... |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. No, just reality. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I would play by the rules |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Spell that out, if you don't mind. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Alright |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
71. What entire population? How many people are we talking about? BTW, Bushco |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Good question... |
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gcomeau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:31 AM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Oh? A fair trial? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. Why is the case instantly thrown out? Because there is absolutely no evidence of |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
70. How do you get no doubt that someone is guilty of really, really bad things when you |
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Umbral (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. Hence the water dog - it makes it more of a challenge. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Sorta... |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. You're right -- but |
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Old Hank (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
80. That's incorrect, gcomeau |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. Another broken promise. |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Well said. I agree. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. Stupid. nt |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. he just keeps rolling over doesn't he |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Aren't they having trouble finding someplace to house the prisoners? |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
54. put them in Supermax |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. But then there's the Chinese prisoners |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. judge |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. Yep. About at the same time his approval rattings will sink... |
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TheLastMohican (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #42 |
58. His will sink faster. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
73. It's still open. It will be open until someone announces that it has been closed. He need not |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. I fell for the "constitutional scholar" con. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
74. Roberts is a heck of a Constitutional scholar. Guy is brilliant and as knowledgable as they |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. It was never the tribunals that bothered me; it was the abrogation of due process |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I understand it is a constitutional system |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
76. Due process, though, does not mean the same thing in these tribunals as it does in |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. who the hell is he sucking up to? nt |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
49. He foolishly believes it was the power brokers that got him elected, not us...nt |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
14. ... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
16. meet the new boss, same as the old boss |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The military people are getting to him. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
75. Not the same. He stopped torture. Well, maybe except for rendition. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. MORE OF THE SAME! |
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othermeans (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
64. How dare you insult Kaptain Kangaroo! Mr. Greensleeves I don't care too much about. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
20. Deleted message |
MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
21. What has happened to him? Was he a phony all along? He might as well have |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
24. Well, I guess if you want to use third party hearsay |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
29. Sigh... |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
31. I wonder what or who got to him.... |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. HOW DO WE FALL FOR THIS EVERY TIME? |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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Mark Twain Girl (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. Damn. I don't know what to say anymore. nt |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
35. "By any measure our system of trying detainees has been an enormous failure " statement by Obama |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
77. But., but. the WH said he was NOT breaking any campaign promise. So, |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
38. Is it OK for the Mexican military to put Americans on trial? |
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BobRossi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
40. GWO |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. This is starting to get depressing. nt |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
44. Will Some Of The Ground Rules Be Changed |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. Oh, what a tangled web we weave............. |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
47. The winds of change have come to a screeching halt. n/t |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
48. Hard to believe Obama... |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
51. The photos now this, this is very disappointing. :( |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. Not to mention, he has not ruled out rendition. |
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QUALAR (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
52. Obama Being Blackmailed |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. "one term wonder" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
79. He says he is getting rid of the attorneys, though. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
60. Oh bullshit. this is one step in the process |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
63. Now done - latest news |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. But they released one "French" citizen yesterday. The odds are against him that he will return |
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