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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:06 AM
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Consumer Price Drop Is Biggest Since '55
Source: CNN Money

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A key index of prices paid by consumers fell at the sharpest rate since August 1955 due to historically low energy prices, the government said Friday.

The Labor Department said the Consumer Price Index declined 0.7% on an annual basis in April, only the second year-over-year decline in nearly 54 years following March's 0.4% drop.

On a monthly basis, consumer prices were unchanged, in line with the consensus estimate of economists surveyed by Briefing.com.

The overall index was affected by a sharp decline in energy prices, which fell 2.4% in April, and are down 25.2% on an annual basis.

--CLIP--
Deflation, a widespread drop in prices, is a sign of economic weakness. Lowering prices is one way businesses can cope with falling demand. But if companies can't earn a profit selling their products at lower prices, they could be forced to cut production or lay off workers, which speeds up the pace of economic deterioration.

Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/15/news/economy/CPI_April/index.htm?section=money_mostpopular
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:19 AM
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1. Not good for many workers but pretty obvious
looking at things around us.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:36 AM
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2. What's going down? Our gas just made $2.40 today, electric is up to
20.1 cents per kwh, tax appraisal on our property is up 18% from last year, milk is $4.09/gallon.

What went down?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:41 AM
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4. Homes.
And thus all the industries behind home building, renovations, repairs.

The housing bubble burst and is dragging everything down with it.
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:41 AM
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5. You can buy a gallon of milk all over town here for $1.77gal. Eggs back down to .99
Same for bread, butter, etc.

Flour and meat prices haven't seen a drop in fact chicken/pork has been at above average prices lately.

Mid-Michigan area btw...
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:28 PM
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13. Thanks for the info. We're here in west Texas, and we're just not seeing
anything, including the housing drops. Our new tax appraisal came in significantly higher than last years.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:08 PM
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16. Please don't take this question wrong...
but how long have you owned a home in Texas? They can only raise property rates every 3 or 5 years, so they compensate by over-inflating the value of your home. You can fight it- but then you have to pay for an independent appraisal yourself, and that generally wipes out any money you might have saved.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 04:22 PM
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26. We've been in this house since 1994, paid off in 2004.
We have several rental properties as well, all with double digit increases in valuation, especially one small apartment complex, which increased more than 60% since last year.

Our homesteaded property is valued at 4x what we paid in 1994.

We got a lawyer last year over about 10% increases, got that reduced to 85, and then this year, wham!
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:02 PM
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15. Not around here...
Milk prices are set by the state (PA) and have been slowly creeping up again, eggs can be found sometimes for .99 a dozen, but the usual price is 1.50+. Meat and produce forget about it.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:40 AM
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3. Where is this country they are talking about? Prices here are rising rapidly
Edited on Fri May-15-09 10:41 AM by Robbien
Pump prices have increased, heating and other utility prices have increased and we have to take a wheelbarrow of cash to the grocery store in order to stock up on the essentials.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:10 AM
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20. Have you been in a Best Buy?
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:46 AM
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6. Since 1955 was hardly a depression ...
... there are apparently other reasons consumer prices can decline.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:49 AM
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7. I wish the only things I spend money on were dropping in price:
rent, food, utilities, car exp. I'm not seeing any "decreases".

I guess luxuries and frivolities are cheaper. That doesn't help when my income doesn't allow me to have those at ANY price.

Maybe my clients will have more disposable income to spend on their kitties, though. So it could eventually trickle down if I'm lucky.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:51 AM
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8. 0.7% WOW I'm running out to the store right now and stocking up!

Yoo Hoo......

:woohoo:
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:56 AM
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9. That's ONLY because Bush/Cheney are OUT of power......................
.........We all know there was some kind of deal made between Cheney and the energy companies. How many years in a row did oil companies have not just record profits, but windfall profits. I just saw today how health insurance prices went up 119% since 1999. Bush wasn't just good for business, Bush WAS business. A good part is the economy, but a large part is a Democrat is in the White House now.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:59 AM
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10. I wish the price of gas would drop.
Its one of the things I can't do without.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:11 PM
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11. Im calling bullsh!t
We saw the way the CPI numbers could be manipulated to show what ever an administration wants during Bush.

While its true some dairy prices are down, everything else has been increasing (or staying the same price with smaller packaging).

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:45 AM
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21. Why would the Obama Administration be lying about this?
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:22 PM
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12. i see just the opposite
price rises in almost everything i regualrly buy
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:00 PM
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14. Definitely
Agreed with that other poster right above you--this sounds just like another steaming helping of bullshit. EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING that I buy is going in one direction only (UP). I don't know where these tumbling prices are being found because it's certainly not around here (central PA where it's definitely NOT any kind of luxurious locale)
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:10 PM
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18. overstimulation + stagnation = stagflation
invest in disco shirts
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 04:18 PM
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17. what a crock
everything has gone up - food, water, sewer, garbage, gasoline ... and that is just a few.

Gasoline = $2.75 a gallon spotted the other day here. :mad:

DEFLATION my ass!

:kick:

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:46 AM
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22. Cars, houses, TV's all way down.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:22 PM
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23. not buying a car, house nor TV
no money for such frivolous things here.

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:32 PM
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24. Very few are that's why the prices are down.
You have to buy a lot of eggs to make up for that flat screen TV.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:51 PM
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25. Depends where you are.
The CPI is an average for the country, not a spot-price check for a particular location.

It also has a specific "basket" of items, and excludes some that are volatile (such as gasoline).

Last year people insisted that the inflation rate was high because of a spike in commodities; some of those people also insisted on not counting reductions in price when the commodity bubble broke, while other took a narrow view and insisted it meant deflation (which mean depression). Since energy prices got worked into all sorts of food prices a month or two or three after energy prices soared, the energy spike did show up in the CPI--and now the decrease in energy prices *from last summer's highs* are showing up in the CPI.

It averages out over a few years, but people are often interested in very short-term changes because of their own biases. Here a lot of prices have declined, a lot have increased. Electricity is still down, gas is up a little (but way down since last summer), milk is about as expensive as it was 5 years ago, and let's not even mention Basmati rice (which has halved in price). Meanwhile, some other things are more expensive--bananas haven't returned to their early-2008 prices. I can focus on one set of prices or the other with equal disingenuousness, but I should try to come up with a reasonably weighed average.

Perhaps I underappreciate the value of outrage to keep my blood pressure dangerously high and thus fail to support drug companies as I should.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 05:49 PM
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27. Mostly right
and CPI-W most definitely INCLUDE gasoline and food in their computation. Commonly reported is the "core CPI" which does exclude those items -- but they are in the index.

More importantly, those items are included when computing COLA adjustments for social security, government raises, etc.

See http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpiri2008.pdf for a breakdown of the items and the weights in the CPI.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:07 AM
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19. It's obviously my fault. I was born in 1955.
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