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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:27 PM
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Ashcroft In Guarded Condition

Update on his condition...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/09/ashcroft/index.html
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:30 PM
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1. I don't understand why he's guarded...
...my 75 year old father who is in poor health had the same thing. He went to the ER on Saturday and they removed his gallbladder on Monday. He was out by Wednesday and is doing fine. My brother is an ER physician who said this is very common low risk surgery.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:30 AM
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12. He's being gaurded against calico cats...


they're everywhere man!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:50 PM
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:56 PM
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33. They are mean-spirited.
I didn't wish him ill will now did I?


If you are looking for mean-spirits check out the level of bile at free republic.

Then after you have taken several showers to clean the filth off come back here and call me that again.


BTW: Welcome to Democratic Underground.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:02 PM
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:25 PM
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36. How was my post mean spirited?

Please tell me.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:50 PM
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:15 PM
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35. You did? Really? When?
:eyes:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 02:43 AM
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19. Could be from...
Calicos
Ingesting
Ashcroft
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pianogirl Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:18 PM
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27. cia
That's too good. LOL
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:31 PM
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2. What does guarded mean?
I've heard of critical, serious, satisfactory ...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:39 PM
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5. Probably 2 policeman standing at his door at all times.
I think that is what guarded condition mean.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:40 PM
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6. "Guarded" condition means that it is not yet apparent whether ...
the condition of the patient will improve or deteriorate, hence "guarding" or watching closely over the patient.
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dai Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:27 AM
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10. It's from that color chart



General Risk of Terrorist Attacks - to Ashcrofts gall bladder.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:35 AM
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15. RFLMAO! And, I thought the Constitution was protecting him!
:silly:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:35 PM
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3. Rich man vs. Poor man
Egregious differences in basic medical care.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:37 PM
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4. My wife
went into surgery at 1115 AM and we were home at 5 PM, 75 miles from the Hospital.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:18 AM
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9. That's usually the case with gallbladder
surgery. Most gallbladder surgery, though, is done on someone suffering gallstones and inflammation of the gallbladder (cholecystitis). Pancreatitis is usually a much more serious condition and takes longer to recover from, but either condition can kill you if not treated.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 02:33 AM
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18. So why are they taking out his gallbladder,
when the disease that he has is of the pancreas?

There's more going on here then they are telling us. Last week the doctors were saying that they only see pancreatis this advanced in men with a history of alcoholism. I think they are doing a bait and switch with the diagnosis here?
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:22 AM
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24. Because gallstones in the gallbladder
can cause pancreatitis. If they remove his gallbladder, it will prevent future pancreatitis (if the pancreatitis was caused by the gallstones). The liver, gallbladder, and pancreas are part of the same digestive system.

Snip
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Pathogenesis: Several mechanisms have been proposed to play a causative role in the genesis of pancreatitis:

1. Obstruction of the pancreatic duct (e.g. gallstones) increased the intraductal pressure and the back-diffusion of pacreatic proenzymes into the periductal tissues producing their activation. However, ligation of the pancreatic duct and tumors do not have this effect.

for more, see http://www.lamp.med.umn.edu/Summer02-Spring03/Year2_Period5/LectureHandouts/GastroIntestinal/02_Pancreas.html
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:51 PM
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7. next?
Who would replace him if he croaked? He's apointed right?
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:08 AM
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8. Yes, but he's always confused it with annointed...
BTW, what he going to be like now that he has no gall bladder to store his bile in?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:30 AM
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11. He'll spend his days...
... running to the toilet after the least ingestion of fats.... If he's preoccupied with that, maybe he'll not be such a constitutional pest.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 01:08 AM
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17. I think Comey would replace him
But, I could be wrong.

DU'ers?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:34 AM
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25. I don't think BushCO is too fond of Comey
Just guessing, but Comey appointed Fitzgerald. And Fitzgerald may be about to unravel the complete FRAUD and SCAM that is this administration.

PNAC-->secret Cheney Energy Panel-->Ignored Attack Warnings-->New Pearl Harbor-->Iraq WMD Lies-->Plame Outting
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:33 AM
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13. Kinda awkward my grandmother has to get the same surgery this week
Small hole through the abdomen.....how awkward. :P
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:34 AM
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14. I think we should sue to take a peek at this medical records
I mean they SAY it's his gallbladder but how do we KNOW ??? I wonder how Mr. Ashcroft would react to THAT.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:47 AM
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16. He has a good health plan which 40,000,000 plus of the people
who are paying the taxes to pay for his medical plan. And I bet he's getting round-the-clock 'Doctors at side' and not a button to push and montiors plugged into the central station which a nurse watches and if alarmed comes walking into the room.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 08:31 AM
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20. GOD himself hath Smited ye Heretick Ashecroft
... 'nuff said...
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:26 AM
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21. A$$crap is just in hiding...investigation against him...
because he's a corrupt bastard, and when he opens his mouth, little man bush's polls go down. The media has reported at least 3 different accounts of his sickness. Gallstone operation today, is just a simple opening next to the bellybutton, no overnight stay in the hospital required. Why they have A$$crap hiding in a hospital at taxpayer's expense, is just the arroogancy for all those criminals.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:37 AM
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22. Anybody hoping a smart alack doctor implanted a fetus on his spleen
while they had him opened up? It was done with male apes and ape fetuses back in the 80s and gestation went OK. Wouldn't if be fun if he woke up pregnant? Might broaden his perspective about a lot of things.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:56 AM
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23. He's not a well man...maybe a shrink will visit him while he's there
I am so happy to have provided him with such good care. If only the rest of us could be entiteld to that coverage.
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pianogirl Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:17 PM
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26. Cost of Med Care for 1 month
How much will it cost to keep him in the hospital for a month with around the clock care? We got a bill today for an outpatient deal with tests, no overnight stay and certainly not the care A$hcroft is getting -- over $2000 for a long afternoon. It's disgusting that 44,000,000 have no insurance and probably another 50,000,000 have lousy insurance, yet bush and the rest don't give a ----.
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stitz58 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:04 PM
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28. kike somebody here said the other day
God is stoning AShcroft from the inside.
Great line.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:32 PM
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29. I guess the new experimental chip emplacement surgery
did not quite work right.

Oops.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:41 PM
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30. He's ready to drop dead?
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:33 PM
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37. It means he's guarded from facing congress and the media until after Nov 2
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