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Look at these quotes I picked up from freerepublic.com
To: quidnunc I think it is going to be a disaster for the GOP. They will only barely hold on in the House due to Gerrymandering (1980 DEMs)
I see Bush losing by possibly as much as 8-9 points. DEMs pick up the Senate. GOP wins GA and SC offset by losses in IL, OK, CO, AK. That would give DEMs the Senate.
Right now I do not see GW Bush getting more than approximately 200 EVs.
His campaign is awful so far. Worse yet, he has done enough in Iraq to ensure Kerry comes in just as it is getting cleaned up. Thus Kerry wins the war.
there is a very very real possiblity that this election will shut out the GOP from the White House for a generation
This country will be unrecognizable. We will be more like Canada. Speech will become regulated by the govt. Gay Marriage in all 50 states. and the courts will be gone forever.
3 posted on 03/09/2004 5:54:36 PM PST by raloxk < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
To: Miss Marple I'll tell you why I am so paniced. it isnt the media. but history. I could care less about the media.
Re-elections are lost or won months or even years in advance. This winter from Dec-Feb, is when Bush lost. Strangly, the country seems to be in a more sour mood now than 6 months ago when Bush would have won a landslide. But the economy is clearly better off now. I think voters are very wary of the events of the past 4 years. It is showing up now big time.
Bush campaign right now is following the patterns of past losers and Kerry the pattern of past winners. They are unfocused, lack confidence and are on the defensive
here are some ominous signs:
Stock market is falling (investors sense a Kerry Presidency)
no incumbent party has ever won re-election when OPEC was strong. No incumbent party has ever lost when OPEC was weak. They are stronger now than at anytime since 1980.
The payroll job numbers are herrendous. When GHW Bush lost in 1992 the economy had created over one million jobs that year.
The liberal charge wont work anymore. The country is much much more liberal than in 1988 when people still had a bad taste of Carter in their mouths.
Bush lost he popular vote. No one who ever lost the popular vote ever won re-election
I believe the polls are not capturing the extent of hatred towards Bush and the GOP. Remember 1998? Even the media expected a GOP win. the polls didnt capture how motivated Libs were because of impeachment.
Finally: Bush will lose because Gore didtn run(silly I know). Gore is the biggest loser in the past 100 years. In Dec 2002 when Gore announced he wasnt running, I said to myself "Bush will lose" Figure Gore to stay out in a year when he could have won.
26 posted on 03/09/2004 6:09:34 PM PST by raloxk < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies >
To: raloxk Q is right. Actually, I think the Pres gets about 6 states: Texas, Utah, Nebraska, Idaho, Wyoming, and Kansas. Dem's get the Senate, probably about 52 votes. We'll keep the house, barely, thanks to the districting and the fact that the Dem's get so obsessed with Kerry and the Senate that they fail to realize the potential of a clean sweep before it's too late for them. Kerry has his way with the judges, including the Supremes.
The fact is, I spent all of 1996 working feverishly on the Dole campaign and local Republican races, waiting for the tide to turn, whicb never happened. The voters won't tune in until after the Olympics, after the conventions, after Labor Day, after the World Series, after Halloween, etc. This is looking to be a repeat of that one. In my then-county, the putrid Dole effort cost us two state reps, several county races, and two judgeships.
Moreover, the Clinton people were so confident of his reelection that the cops at a Clinton rally wore his campaign stickers on their uniforms and beat up several of my friends waving Dole signs ACROSS THE HIGHWAY from the rally. I wasn't there, but I worked in the courthouse part-time, and heard several cops bragging about it.
Warning: when Dem's are confident of victory, they get ugly.
The President is dead in the water. The country will be dead soon. Yes, we will have gay marriage, the Patriot Act will be turned against abortion protesters, and the US will go under UN command. There will be several military exercises that don't amount to much except to be able to spoon-feed the American public that this exercise in {insert name of tiny country here} is a heady success, unlike that fiasco in Iraq when the moron Bush sent our boys to be killed for no good reason.
Kerry is such a weak candidate, but the Bush team is too cocky, too arrogant, to fight back. They won't take the high ground, they won't seriously fight back, either. They'll just muddle through with lame press releases and retreads from BushI/Dole campaigns to say "but, but, but" to the Dem attack dogs.
Eventually, the Dem charges will sink in and redefine Bush so bad that his father looks good by comparison.
Iraq and the economy will both improve at the right (for Kerry) time. Kerry gets to be the World Statesman. Bush has successfully neutralized Al-Queda, so that won't be an issue. Thanks to the dragons that Bush has slayed, Kerry will preside over an era of peace. Thanks to the media talking up the economy, Kerry will preside over an era of "prosperity" too.
39 posted on 03/09/2004 6:15:08 PM PST by cincy29 (very disenheartened) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies >
To: M. Thatcher No I did not. We need to stop kidding ourselves, this election is slipping out of Bush's hands. If those commercials and the lame comments about outsourcing and free trade are to be taken as the kick off of the campaign then we are in big trouble. Kerry is running a sharp campaign so far and the flack catchers in the media will see that the flip flop issues do not matter. Kerry is out kicking ass and his campaign is going somewhere. We are up for several Congressional "probes" soon and we will never hear the end of those either. Bush is not running an effective campaign, it is time to face it. Whatever one thinks of polls, he is behind in every one. This time around the voters seem very emotional, very hysterical. I have never seen such constant negative media,not even during the Reagan years, and Reagan handled this sort of thing much better than Bush has so far. It is not going well and we need to stop rationalizing it away. OPEC and the EU will try to do what they can in the summer. Bush is letting Kerry frame the election. Bush is running a reactive campaign. They are running out of time and the voters' minds are being shaped by the Dems, particularly in key rustbelt states. The fact that most people think that there is some huge economic problem were there really isn't one just proves my point. THe media has already done that for the Dems. Bush let them do that. He is not making his points with the voter.
34 posted on 03/09/2004 5:45:40 PM PST by CasearianDaoist ((Nuance THIS!)) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies >
To: COURAGE Agree (GWB is in trouble).I've posted this before and it remains true. The GWB camp cannot name ONE State Al Gore won in 2000 that they see surly in their favor this year (2004). This spells trouble for an incumbent.Why the GWB camp sat back in 2003 and allowed the premise to be set on the economy & the lies on the war in Iraq is beyond me (it was nothing more then being 100% lazy as hell).If people think the GWB camp spending $160 million in ads is going to change things....you don't have a clue whats about to come in the form of $600 million worth of free ads by the national press! Which a research firm recently put out as the apprx figure the Networks will favor Kerry by.(add that to the $110 Kerry will spend, the $20 million MoveON will spend & the $50 to $75+ million the Unions will spend) and you have to understand...GWB is in trouble...The Grassroots is going to have to deliver this election to GWB (more then ever). Each of us need to be getting the GWB message out (to extended family, co-workers, etc)...and do so in a "positive, constructive, way" (don't try and show you are smarter, or try and win an argument....the goal is to bring people aboard by this Nov).
27 posted on 03/09/2004 5:43:16 PM PST by progop < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies >
To: progop The President better talk less about the war on terror and more on the economy. The RATS are WAAAAY out in front on this issue and they are just pounding Bush into the ground on jobs and the economy. I don't give one wit about what the so-called economic "experts" on this forum say because the average joe sixpack voter doesn't have a college degree in economics and when he or she steps into that voting booth all they remember is they don't have a job! Right or wrong they are GOING TO BLAME BUSH!!! We need to realize we ARE in deep deep trouble here folks. The funny thing is the RATS have NO PLAN to spur job growth either but they aren't Bush and THAT is what the average voter will see. I'll be glad to apologize for this rant come November IF I turn out to wrong.
52 posted on 03/09/2004 5:53:11 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!) < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >
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