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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:30 PM Original message |
Elena Kagan Emerging As Supreme Court Front-Runner |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why is she thought to be so much more conservative? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Thank you for asking that question. Some will not ask but react to the article |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I didn't have to. I already this: |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. LOL! There are almost no actual facts offered regarding Kagan. Just opinions. Thanks for proving my |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Fine -- just keep your head in the sand then. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. First, does it give you pause that Conservatives 'adore' her? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
59. And Stevens was nominated by Ford. Souter by HW Bush. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Then why is Obama resorting in the "stealth" nomination. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #59 |
84. Souter and Stevens were the exceptions, not the rule. And, probably their date of birth had a lot to |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
101. Ford wasn't exactly a raging conservative |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. By today's standards, NIXON would be a liberal |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #105 |
115. So true.... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. Ford led the fight to impeach William O Douglas. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #59 |
103. So...when do you expect Clarence Thomas will emerge from his chrysalis as a secret liberal? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. it takes a special person to link clarence thomas and kagan. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Ones a Justice of the SCOTUS. The other is a potential candidate for same. There's your link. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. OK, I read his argument |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
55. Did you also read his qualifications and the links he gave? |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Yes. The links pretty much say the same thing.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #61 |
85. I agree. |
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mr_liberal (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
77. No, he did make an exception for Ginsburg. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Thanks, but each of us is half right. He said "Except MAYBE Ginsburg." I would make an exception |
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mr_liberal (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. If thats exactly what he said then he meant it |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:46 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. That is exactly what Stevens, J., said. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
80. in what fantasy world? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Irony much? Check what Reply 55 actually says before implying Justice Stevens is in a fantasy world |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Thanks for the info . . . Isn't there another Al Franken around anywhere? |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. delete |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. It's exactly what worries me, though. |
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Massacure (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
49. ABC World News did an article on the Supreme Court yesterday. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Roe v. Wade was not a very broad case. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. This seems kind of funny to me; until Obama opens his mouth, |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. I call BS. The MSM is promoting Kagan. She won't be the one picked. n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
60. The media nailed it on Sotomayor. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well, Conservatives are happy |
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DebbieCDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I stopped believing that months ago |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Same here. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. If Obama nominates her that certainly will relieve me of any further reason to vote for him again |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Because you read a vacuous piece with nearly no actual facts from Greenwald? |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. There are plenty of facts in that article. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Well, why don't you present the 'actual facts.' |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Yes, yes...you keep saying stuff like that. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I'm flattered you keep track of my posts. I don't have a clue who you are. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Don't be flattered. I don't. I have seen your posts, though. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
113. It's going to get awful lonely at the top with the other corporate right-wing democrats. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
102. . |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. When Kagan was mentioned as a candidate for the last opening |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. 31 Republicans voted against her when she was nominated |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
42. They may have. |
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BunkerHill24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. Frankly, I would rather wait and see before I make judgment on it |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. Given that this is the decision of one man - how can there be a front runner? |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Every White House floats potential nominees in the media. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
52. I guess the front runner would be the one Obama seems to be leaning toward. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
14. I called it. ---> |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. How about the novel idea of Obama fighting for once. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I didn't say I liked the idea. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Which is why the GOP will block ANY candidate. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I understand that. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Why is it so much easier to believe that Obama and the Democrats are just staggeringly impotent than |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Yep....what you say is worth some further thought.....n/t |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
94. Bingo |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Agree -- and the excuses are coming early and fast . . .. can't be done! |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. +100 |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
107. The only thing Obama will ever fight is liberals |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. The right wing certainly knows how to teach hatred and violence... |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
28. She's the Solicitor-General for a Democratic administration. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. This court badly needs a balance to the radical Conservatives |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
81. considering that obama has pretty much gone along with the unitary executive thang |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
35. I am with defendandprotect...I want a FLAMING LIBERAL!!! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
95. +1. The future of our Nation depends on it |
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change_notfinetuning (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
38. WWRN - Who Would Rahm Nominate? That's probably who you'll get. n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
54. Who was Clinton's Chief of Staff? Pls see Reply # 53. I predict much mention of "Chicago Mafia." |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
43. If Obama pushes the court to the left |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
44. Didn't Bill Clinton Nominate Her As Judge Once? Too liberal? |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:46 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. They seem to have changed their minds in intervening years, and . . . |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #44 |
56. LOL. But no takers. Please see Reply ##'s 53 and 55. |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
45. Exactly as I predicted, centrists are only ones happy to hear this -nt |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
47. I can forgive Obama almost anything . . . but if he blows a Supreme Court nomination . . . |
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mr_liberal (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. Then you shodul be done with him already |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
48. "We should be insulted either way." |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #48 |
57. I love Groucho, but I always felt the opposite on that one. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. You don't think we should be insulted if hes a moderate fooling us or if he's actually insulting us? |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
50. Um, has Obama said one word yet? All the speculation is from the usual talking heads. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. No, conjecture, based on fact. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
53. Well, if you've loved the cases the D of J has appealed so far, you'll probably love Kagan. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
58. If he's going to choose her he needs to do it soon |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
62. Deleted message |
Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
63. When Obama takes the conservative route, it can kick GLBT folk in the gut |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 03:56 AM Response to Reply #63 |
90. I read Kagan is "fiercely" pro-choice and pro-equal rights. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Thank you for your thoughtful reply |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
67. Hmmm what about Judge Ito from the Simpson trial, he seems pretty decent. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
68. I'm rooting for Harold Koh, but the list of choices for Obama are HUGE |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
69. What? The WH has run out of cleaning lady nominees? It's a disaster! n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
70. This sounds like some form of horseshit. nt |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Frankly, I think putting this news out on the weekend is a trial balloon. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. I don't think you should assume this is "the Administration", there are lots of other players, |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
72. If this happens, that will just point out once again that President Obama isn't a liberal. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
73. To avoid forcing Republicans to engage in a real filibuster he might appoint a conservative |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. How about appointing Randall Terry, of Operation Rescue? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. That won't work. Just a good solid conservative activist who can get 5 or 6 Republican votes .... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 04:09 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. LOL. Mitch McConnell, is that you? If not, how do you know what will and will not work? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. Another brilliant 13-dimensional chess move by Obama |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
79. she gets a thumbs up from me |
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madchick44 (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
82. I think it is time for a progressive Asian American on SCOTUS |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:31 AM Response to Reply #82 |
92. It's past time for another liberal. I don't think |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
98. I'm rooting for Harold Koh. n/t |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
93. She has my support... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Sounds a lot like Roberts when asked about Roe v. Wade during his confirmation hearings. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
99. Obama is still determined to be the transformational President this country desperately needs now. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. He looks like a continuity president |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
104. What about educational diversity? |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
106. Wasn't he in |
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phusion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
108. gives assassination orders for an American Citizen (why hasn't that been discussed here?) |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
112. Considering this Administration's short but IMO, mostly right-leaning track record ... |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-21-10 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
114. Hurray for centrism!! |
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