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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:16 AM
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5 Madrid bomb suspects deny involvement
MADRID, Spain - A judge charged three Moroccans with at least 190 counts of murder in last week’s Spanish train bombings and ordered them and two Indians jailed Friday pending an investigation that could last two years, a court official said.

The judge’s decision, which stops short of a formal indictment, is the first indication the government has strong evidence linking the Moroccans to the worst terror attack in Spain’s history. The March 11 attacks killed 202 people.

During an all-night, closed-courtroom session, the five denied any connections to the bombings, saying they were sleeping at the time of the attacks, the official said on condition of anonymity.

Suspicion for the bombings has centered on Moroccan extremists said to be linked to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida terror network. In an unauthenticated videotape, a man claiming to speak for al-Qaida said the group carried out the attack in reprisal for Spain’s backing of the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

Suspects deny involvement
The five suspects denied having links to al-Qaida, the official said.

Key suspect Jamal Zougam, a Moroccan, stared down and wept during the hearing, while another Moroccan suspect, Mohamed Bekkali, shouted: “I am innocent! I am innocent!” during his arrival, the court official said.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4502950/
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:20 AM
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1. So what do you think, eh?
They sure don't sound like Islamic Fundamentalist Martyrs to me.
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:22 AM
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2. they sound like patsies to me
Something along the lines of, damn that didn't work how we planned it, better find some dark men with beards to pin it on before anyone looks too closely.

Consider how the FBI's just DYING to get in and 'help' the Spanish with the investigation but the Spanish won't let them.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:03 AM
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4. "we need a headline! quick, round up the usual suspects!"
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 08:46 PM
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9. Patsies. I like how Xymphora puts it:
You can see how absurdly easy it is to create a fake 'al-Qaeda' terrorist attack. Take one petty criminal from Madrid of plausible ethnicity and pay him some money to hang out with some people who the authorities can associate with al-Qaeda. After the bomb attack, either plant a bag of unexploded bombs or find a real dud bag and, while it is in the police station, put a phone and a phone card from the shop of the petty criminal in the bag. The criminal is instantly turned into Lee Harvey Oswald, and the bombing attack is instantly turned into an act of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.

http://www.xymphora.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_xymphora_archive.html#107967356752735965
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:50 AM
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3. I hope the new government proceeds cautiously and does
a real investigation into this atrocity. I'm have no idea who did this, but I have my own suspicions as to who might have benefited from a terror attack this close to an election.
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nondeskript Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:07 AM
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5. Who might have benefited?
Um... wouldn't that be the guys that WON the election, ie the socialists? Why is it difficult to accept that this was the work of Islamic terrorists, the kind who have performed similar attacks across the middle east, in Bali, in the US, etc?

-DW
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:23 AM
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6. The likliehood that it's AQ is not hard to accept.
But our media telling us that the "terrorists won" is, given:

The outgoing gov lied re: ETA and it was known prior to election

Some 80% of Spain was against the war to begin w/

The *huge turnout* of Spain's masses is what helped bring a leftie to power, as would similar turnout in the U.S.



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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 07:24 PM
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7. Hi nondeskript!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 08:39 PM
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8. Related
Report: Spaniard Led Suspects to Dynamite
MADRID, Spain -- A Spaniard with a criminal record led four Moroccans to an explosives warehouse at a mine to steal dynamite used in the Madrid terror bombings, a newspaper reported Saturday. The unidentified Spaniard, a former miner in the northern Asturias region, was among five people arrested Thursday. He insisted he only led the Moroccans to the warehouse and did not help with the robbery or know the Moroccans had Islamic extremist links, El Pais reported, quoting police sources. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-spain-bombings,0,2864510.story?coll=bal-home-headlines
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