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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:41 AM
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U.S. considers United Nations command in Iraq to keep Spain on board
U.S. officials are exploring ways to persuade Spain to keep its troops in Iraq, including the possibility of a separate United Nations command to oversee international forces.

Under that scenario, the U.S. military would continue to lead its own soldiers, while troops from Spain and other countries could be led by the United Nations, a State Department official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

It's not clear if the scenario would be acceptable to Spain. And Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said, "I wouldn't want to speculate on any potential U.N. resolution in the future."

But U.S. leaders have made clear they think it might be possible to accommodate the concerns of Spanish Prime Minister-elect Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, despite his insistence that Spanish troops will leave unless the United Nations takes charge in Iraq.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/03/19/national1541EST0696.DTL
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:48 AM
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1. Spain leaving would be an embarrassing blow to Bushco.
They will do anything to keep them on board. Bush and friends run everything this way. They compromise on everything that they don't have a 100% advantage on. They like to squash bad press or competition.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:56 AM
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2. All one needs to do is stand up to a bully...
They crumple like a paperbag.

Are you paying attention America?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:09 AM
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3. That's absolutely correct.
I'm waiting for someone to stand up to Cheney.
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 08:01 AM
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4. I think its too late, baby.
Spain wants out, now.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 08:07 AM
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5. What BS! So we'll end up with 2 different wars over there? US in charge
of one group (their own and maybe the Brits) and the UN in charge of the rest? How stupid!
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 09:51 AM
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6. Sounds like a set-up
...in order to bash the Spanish again.

A fledgling gov't that ran on a central plank of 'withdrawal' is not likely to be impressed by any Bush-led initiative--the socialists would do so at their own peril.

Such a refusal to honour their electoral committments would be ironic and wouldn't be missed by European socialists...

Kerensky's gov't came to power on the promise of withdrawing from WW1 and they didn't...and look what happened
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 09:58 AM
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7. Another deceitful ploy...
U. S. keeps control of its 130,000-140,000 troops, the Brits keep control of an unknown number of troops(can anyone supply us with the numbers?) and the U. N. takes charge of maybe 4,000 troops...that the U. S. has painted bullseyes on.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:13 PM
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11. I think I saw where
the British have about 12,000 troops in Iraq concentrated in the south.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:08 AM
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8. The UN and Iraq should only accept the US out of Iraq entirely
Both troops and corporate predators. No US ownership or control of anything.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 12:47 PM
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9. Nothing would be better than for Bushco to slip in his own mess
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:10 PM
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10. Unfortunately, that mess would mean more dead and wounded Iraqis
Americans, Brits, Poles....UN in, US OUT...OF EVERYTHING.

War profiteers who are bilking the U. S. taxpayers should have to pay the money back to us., PLUS PENALTIES.
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:59 PM
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12. That suggestion is interesting - but insufficient
There is no alternative to Zapatero's condition for staying in Iraq.

To keep Spain (and Poland, and the Netherlands, and a few others) on board, there are two scenarios: NATO and a UN-led peacekeeping mission.

NATO is operating within the UN framework, and already is involved in a UN-mandated operation (Kosovo) and has the clear added advantage of having its own command and control infrastructure, with strong (dominant) US influence.

The alternative of a "classic" UN peacekeeping mission is the lesser of the two, but perhaps more politically feasable.

However - the idea of a "split" mission (i.e., a separate US and UN structure) is both impractical and insufficient to keep the allies on board and in Iraq.

Time to get off the dime: Bush needs to acknowledge that he over-reached in Iraq, and that he needs the international community to clean up his mess. And that involves submitting to a leadership role for the UN, whether directly or indirectly (through NATO)
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