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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:03 PM
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Goldman Sachs set to pay £3.5bn in bonuses
Source: Times Online

GOLDMAN SACHS, the world’s biggest investment bank that is now assailed by accusations of fraud, is poised to reignite controversy over bankers’ bonuses by paying its staff more than £3.5 billion for just three months’ work.

The bumper payouts will equate to about £110,000 a head for the firm’s 32,500 employees worldwide, with a handful of top traders expected to be in line for multi-million-pound bonuses.

Close to £600m is expected to be paid to the group’s 5,500 London-based staff for the first three months of this year. This is on a par with their remuneration in 2007, the last year of the boom.

The revelation of the enormous pay deals comes as Goldman prepares for a legal battle with the US government. The group was sued on Friday by the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Wall Street regulator, over claims it defrauded investors of $1 billion. Goldman denies the charges.

Read more: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article7100961.ece



This is God's work, right? /sarcasm off.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:15 PM
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1. Dumping the goods now so it's harder for the gov't to claw back? n/t
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:23 PM
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2. Is this part of a plot to a horror movie?
I keep thinking nothing can shock me anymore, but then you guys come up with another shocker.

Time to call/write our Reps/Senators and demand new regulations be enacted and fines/jail time be given to these in-your-face creeps. This is the last straw!
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:28 PM
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3. Sharing the loot before the government takes them down.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:42 PM
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4. The top 25 hedge fund managers in the US averaged over $1 billion each last year
From: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/business/01hedge.html

Pay of Hedge Fund Managers Roared Back Last Year

the top 25 hedge fund managers took home an average of $1 billion in 2009.


Top from left: David Tepper ($4 billion), George Soros ($3.3 billion), James Simons, John Paulson, Steve Cohen; Bottom from left: Carl Icahn ($1.3 billion), Edward Lampert, Kenneth Griffin ($900 million), John Arnold, Philip Falcone.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:53 PM
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8. Jim Simons is a pretty amazing guy. A brilliant mathematician actually. nt
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:45 PM
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11. I talk to 8 far more brilliant mathematicians before lunch..
every day.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:53 PM
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12. That would be impressive. He is a very good geometer
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 05:56 PM by Lucky Luciano
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris_Simons
PhD at 23 is always impressive...andBerkeley is actually number one in math (though thatwas a few years ago - not sure where it was then or right this minute).

Chern-Simons theory got him respect as a mathematician.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chern%E2%80%93Simons_theory

Terry Tao has him beat for sure - that punk kid was a full professor at 21 at UCLA before he won the Fields medal. My advisor raves and raves about Valdimir Voevodsky - my advisor was great - got his Doctor of Science in Russia at age 27 (usually that takes 10-12 years after the PhD to get) - and my advisor thinks that Voevodsky had done enough brilliant work for 10 lifetimes.

So are you hanging out at the IAS? That could be one place where you would talk to 8 mathematicians more brilliant than Simons before lunch. Not sure you can do that outside of the IAS - unless you are in France - IHES?
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 12:34 AM
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17. Or perhaps she's at the Princeton math department?
Andrew Wiles, John Conway, Harold Kuhn (ok he's emeritus), Ingrid Daubechies (ok, she's an applied mathematician), Charles Fefferman, Andrei Okounkov, Yakov Sinai and Manjul Bahrgava?
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:03 PM
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9. Thanks for the faces! Just wondering how they'd look in prison orange jumpsuits...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 08:29 AM
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15. $2.7 million a day. $4M a day if you subtract weekends and holidays.
Not outrageous at all.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:52 AM
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20. And what value did they produce for society for that money?
Cure for cancer? Income security for old folks? Fun game for kids? Better schools? Re-education that works for convicts?

Did any one of them do any more than line their own personal pockets by taking away money resources from things that actually are real and could benefit everyone?

Any of them any more productive than the guy who comes to see you and says, "Nice little business/house/family you got there. Shame if anything happened to it."
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:05 PM
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5. If you want employees to lie, cover and shred, you have to pay top dollar, no?

and I don't mean to imply that bonuses are meant to do that. I would never in 3.5 Billion years think that.

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:58 PM
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6. Our tax dollars at work...
We wouldn't have been much worse, and perhaps better, without the bailouts. But these bums would be broke.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:19 PM
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7. Devising fraudulent CDOs is hard work
Selling CDOs, designed to fail, and then collecting the insurance (AIG/taxpayer) is the work of financial geniuses!
That's why they're paid so well.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 05:27 PM
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10. This corporation should be disolved. It's been done before, time to start again. I mean now.
let the chips fall where they may. Nationalize it and sell it off to pay it's debts to the taxpayers.
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:01 PM
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13. names, i want the names of these roaches...
they produce nothing, they are leeches sucking the blood out of the economy.
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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:28 PM
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14. What do they do that is worth that much money?
What goods or services do they provide to people to justify those salaries? They don't work as hard as someone making minimum wage. They don't produce anything that can be seen.

As far as I can tell they are like leeches that feed on the hard work of other people.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:40 AM
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16. Thank GAWD they didn't fail.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:12 AM
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18. Obama's bonus to be dropped.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:40 AM
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19. Can't the DoJ freeze their assets, since they're under indictment?
:wtf:
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