Okla. House overrides abortion restrictions vetoes

Source: WA Post



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042603655.html

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So now doctors can lie to their patients about the results of prenatal testing, and women must be subjected to moralizing bs before being allowed to have an abortion. I don't see how this is constitutional, and is certainly ethically wrong.

a thousand steps back.

Sigh.

they have to be subjected to scorn, laughing the butt of jokes because they can't get it up. works for me.

and not be held liable. GOd this pisses me off

wouldn't want to encourage sex outside of a religious union or sex for anything but for producing more little gawd warriors

:sarcasm:

:grr:

challenged because other stupidly radical States will follow suit. What the hell is wrong with this Country?????

Religion

Fucking assholes. Fucking hypocrites.

Idiotic Rethuglicans, meddling with the women's lives.

Hawkeye-X

The Oklahoma legislature is controlled by Republicans, but it's not by a wide margin.

in our private lives, and certainly that is true when it comes to health care, is it not?

that protect their stupidity

Good Lord.

On a woman owning her body - first and last.

Privacy is dead.

We are just arguing over the details.

one of the sponsors of this bill and told her that I would not be a particiapant in carrying out this legislation. I mentioned that her attempts to hijack my skills and education were not appreciated. I mentioned that I will not subject a woman to any exam she does not want, will not make anyone look at the screen against their will, and that no tutorials on embryonic development will be forthcoming. Jail probably awaits me. I just need to get out of this F***ing state.

for standing by your principles. More people need to do that. Women fought long and hard for this right.

I cannot imagine someone attempting to violate my body in such a manner. Don't patients have to give consent for any medical treatment?

the end of the conversation. I say "Thank you. It's absolutely your call. Have a good day," And I leave.
Interestingly, I've queried several other techs about their position on this -- all of them very conservative -- and without exception they have said "I won't do it". There were some frankly startling reactions to this. The best was probably from a Mormon woman who said "Screw them. I've never tortured anyone in my life and I won't start now." I think the neanderthals in the legislature underestimated us.

and leave that putrid little shit hole of a state.

I really do believe that organized religion has a lot to do with it, but more than that, it's raw control and greed they want over us all. THEY use religion as a trumped up reason for the control and then laugh about the stupid people that would do anything they told them to do. Their goal - dumb us down, feed us kool-aid, take our money and start a breeding program to fill their pedophilic, masochistic, and militaristic needs.

Did I miss anything?

Democrats should slam this "big government" intrusion into people's lives every day.

There is nothing that says "big government out of control" more than forcing people to undergo medical procedures against their will.

No Democrat should ever let an Oklahoma politician claim he or she is for less government again as long as they live.

:grr:

thanks to the religious nut jobs, the United States is becoming Iran.

Gods and religion are the most evil of all of mankind's inventions.

Their "Battle of the Bulge" to be more specific. Until their voting base dies off or comes out of the closet.

WTF is up with that place?

haven't you noticed? All the jobs are being shipped overseas where they are filled for less money. The rich - hell they make even more money that way. For anyone who is not rich, we are ALL trapped in a race to the bottom. Some places like OK and NV are just ahead of the curve. :puke:

*edited to change "world" to "USA" in the title. since i haven't been everywhere on the planet, i should keep my thoughts limited to the USA although from what I've read many places are not doing well right now. i blame capitalism but that's a whole other topic.

Just before last weekend, Arizona passed the illegal immigrant witchhunt law.

And now Oklahoma's legislature over-rode the governor's veto of the abortion cops law.

I thought that America was better than this. Perhaps the establishment of a sovereign white, Republican, Christian micro-country where everyone's a family with a married mother and father with good old obedient children who abstain from sex until marriage is on the plate.

Children are obedient always
Women submit to their husband and never snitch or threaten to divorce
You know the game, it's archaic

get involved in a womens physical decisions? Why are the tea partiers protesting this?

Source: New York Times

Strict Abortion Measures Enacted in Oklahoma
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.
Published: April 27, 2010

The Oklahoma Legislature voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to override vetoes of two highly restrictive abortion measures, one making it a law that women undergo an ultrasound and listen to a detailed description of the fetus before having an abortion.

Though other states have passed similar measures forcing women to have ultrasounds, Oklahoma’s law goes further, requiring a doctor or technician to set up the monitor where the woman can see it and describe the heart, limbs and organs of the fetus. No exceptions are made for rape and incest victims.

The second measure passed into law Tuesday protects doctors from malpractice suits if they decide not to inform the parents of a unborn baby that the fetus has birth defects. The intent of the bill is to prevent parents from later suing doctors who withhold information to try to influence them against having an abortion.

Gov. Brad Henry, a Democrat, vetoed both bills last week. The ultrasound law, he said, was flawed because it did not exempt rape and incest victims and was an unconstitutional intrusion into a woman’s privacy. He painted the other measure as immoral.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/us/28abortion.html?src=mv